Seaton Donating Members 537 Member For: 12y 6m Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 09/02/13 12:17 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 12:17 AM I think yes the customer owns the tune, we are not renting tunes! Ha. No different to paying somebody to build an engine or paint your car. You are paying for someone's time and knowledge to work on YOUR car. That said I would have no problem if my tuner 'locked' my tune so nobody else can use or see it. You wouldn't ask an engine builder to pass on all the specs to the new guy you now have to build a motor and expect him to hand them over. I say you own it but that doesn't mean you own the info and specs on what went on to get it to where it is. Far too much R&D is involved to just hand out that information . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotrana Member 2,586 Member For: 21y 10m 27d Gender: Male Posted 09/02/13 02:28 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 02:28 AM You paid for your tune. You own it and its simple as that. You can do what you like with it. The workshops who disagree don't have a legal leg to stand on. If they have a secretive attitude its time to go somewhere else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBA-XR6T Bronze Donating Members 386 Member For: 12y 11m 16d Posted 09/02/13 03:03 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 03:03 AM Quite simply, if the shop who tuned your car didn't make you sign a contract or confidentiality agreement, specifying who owns the tune etc etc then they don't have a chance of enforcing any right to ownership.It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY ROD GOT OUT Member 434 Member For: 14y 5m 23d Posted 09/02/13 03:23 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 03:23 AM They should get people to sign paperwork etc to cover their ass, I don't see how supplying and fitting parts on a vehicle and making it illegal to drive on public roads is legal anyway... When I got my cat put in I had to sign an agreement to state that it was for track use only. When they tune a vehicle they make it illegal to drive on public roads most times, so they are crazy not to get something signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6thsveta Donating Members 100 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Location: Palmerston North. New Zealand Posted 09/02/13 04:40 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 04:40 AM Just because you paid for something does not mean it is yours. I think the question can be simplifies to; Are you paying for a SERVICE or are you paying for a PRODUCT? Ie. You can pay for a rental car but it's not yours, you cannot do what you like with it. You can pay to go to the cinema but it isn't your movie. You can buy a new car and it is yours. Then there are the other examples like, you can buy a house but you can't do everything you want to it without council approval. Lol. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2So if I sell my car do I have to take it back to the tuner and get him to take "his" tune out so the new owner can't use it.Also if a tuner locks us out of "his" tune and we want to get more upgrades from another tuner, do we have to go back to the original tuner and get him to unlock it and change it ( and probably charge you) so the new tuner can't see his tune.Sounds like rubbish to me.Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't go to another tuner just to let him copy my tune, but I still want the right to be able to because it is my car and my tune the second I drive out of the tuners, I payed for it !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 10m 1d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 09/02/13 04:44 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 04:44 AM I don't think there would be many tuners who just upgrade a tune from a previous tuner. They would have no idea what they're getting themselves into without going over the entire tune. Starting off with one of their own tunes would be far less time consuming and far safer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednose RNS10S Donating Members 2,229 Member For: 18y 6m 10d Gender: Male Posted 09/02/13 06:06 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 06:06 AM (edited) I suggest that anyone who thinks the tune is theirs to do whatever they want with to go and tell their tuner that they will be letting someone suck their tune out so they can refine and improve it to get more power.Please post up the response from your tuner.The tune is paid for by you and you do own it but if you are going to let someone suck it out for their own benefit then you have no faith or respect for your tuner. Edited 09/02/13 06:08 AM by rednose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazzo Donating Members 11,132 Member For: 14y 4m 5d Gender: Male Posted 09/02/13 06:27 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 06:27 AM (edited) Does that mean Ford can send letters out to all the tuners having a sook about them taking out or adjusting there tunes? or do Ford get you to sign a contract saying you cannot adjust or use tune in car?...After I buy brought my car I do what I please.. Edited 09/02/13 06:27 AM by Pazzo XR6T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednose RNS10S Donating Members 2,229 Member For: 18y 6m 10d Gender: Male Posted 09/02/13 06:51 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 06:51 AM Does that mean Ford can send letters out to all the tuners having a sook about them taking out or adjusting there tunes? or do Ford get you to sign a contract saying you cannot adjust or use tune in car?...After I buy brought my car I do what I please..No, they just void your warranty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazzo Donating Members 11,132 Member For: 14y 4m 5d Gender: Male Posted 09/02/13 07:04 AM Share Posted 09/02/13 07:04 AM It's a dog eat dog world out there, yeah the tuner will be pissed but that's just life. It happens in every business around the world get used to it it shut shop, yeah not fair but life ain't fair either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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