xr6thsveta Donating Members 100 Member For: 12y 11m 6d Gender: Male Location: Palmerston North. New Zealand Posted 08/02/13 06:27 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 06:27 AM I payed good money for my car so I believe I would own the tune in it to do as I please.If I get it retuned and pay good money for that don't I own it to do as I please with it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinr33 Donating Members 964 Member For: 13y 7m 25d Posted 08/02/13 06:30 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 06:30 AM (edited) It was my understanding that because the falcons are all tuned from a map sensor they needed to be custom tuned to get right ie why all the capa tunes are less then perfect.With the ls community you could buy a full tuning software to tune your own car for $1500 bucks cable and software, and the tunes could essentially be copied and then tweaked their was afew cowboys who would steal and reflash into cars.You give them enough rope and they will hang themselves normally at the expense of a poor persons car blowing up.Also who the hell wants to learn enough to tune your own car bugger that just pay the people who know what their doing its their job my 2 cents. Edited 08/02/13 06:32 AM by spinr33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednose RNS10S Donating Members 2,229 Member For: 18y 7m 25d Gender: Male Posted 08/02/13 06:34 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 06:34 AM (edited) I payed good money for my car so I believe I would own the tune in it to do as I please.If I get it retuned and pay good money for that don't I own it to do as I please with it ?Fair point and I agree to some extent, but..........It all comes down to the relationship you have with your tuner, I am very happy that my car:1. Gets me to work everyday2. Has enough power to scare most bikes on a roll on3. Has run a 10 sec passThis all comes down to the hardware my tuner has advised me to purchase and the tune it self, so why would I let someone suck out the tune I have been so happy with?The tune may have been paid for by me but it is only as good as it is due to the time and effort my tuner has spent on tuning mine, his and his customers cars. Edited 08/02/13 06:39 AM by rednose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 17y 22d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 08/02/13 06:37 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 06:37 AM Next will come;I know you've paid for your cooler kit already, but if you actually physically want it you have to come to me for fitting and tuning. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 08/02/13 06:40 AM Author Share Posted 08/02/13 06:40 AM not far off henerytoday zf tomorrow exhaust and so on ......................doing it in style though hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze_dk I am dissatisfied with my current employment situation Donating Members 8,610 Member For: 18y 6m 13d Gender: Male Posted 08/02/13 07:22 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 07:22 AM Next will come;I know you've paid for your cooler kit already, but if you actually physically want it you have to come to me for fitting and tuning.Sounds familiar already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVK Silver Donating Members 751 Member For: 19y 3m 24d Gender: Male Location: North West Hot Hell,VIC Posted 08/02/13 07:47 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 07:47 AM I originally thought the same thing John, but after talking to Bill from HPT recently he has stated they can be?I don't realy want to try for fear of locking myself out of my own pcm!Was he talking about the Ford system in general or inclusive of the Aussie system Luke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirStrike Donating Members 387 Member For: 16y 4m 20d Gender: Male Posted 08/02/13 10:17 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 10:17 AM Was a big eye opener coming from Holden's to ford. Kalmaker tunes are shared freely with everyone looking to help each other out. Hell there is even a website purely for sharing tunes and helping. Modding modern Fords is like some secret black magic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 08/02/13 10:55 AM Author Share Posted 08/02/13 10:55 AM No its just the computer attached to the first ba was like nothing out there ever before And cracking the ecu in the earlie stages was big business Anyone that was there from the begining has pioneered what we have today , u can see why some ( tuners ) take " stealing " personally But it is the way the world is now and u can see it from both sides of the fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnesy Donating Members 210 Member For: 16y 2m 21d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 08/02/13 11:21 AM Share Posted 08/02/13 11:21 AM In an ideal world where people are trying to protect their intellectual property....it can only be protected by how much a entity/business is willing to spend on the legal costs to protect their intellectual property (tunes).There will be limited to no compensation for breaches....this along with many things we know will continue to happen.Perhaps contacting SCT and other tune products to incorporate unique security into the tunes made by workshops through some sort of "licence" to avoid any tune plagiarism.Hate the industry not the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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