Clutch Recommendations

[STAINLESS again plz]

they do it a misleading way that should be illegal.

like my cars top speed is 590mph. if dropped from 20,000 feet

[spinr33]

Its really pretty simple a clutch rated for 300kw should be rated for 300rwkw and probably actually be able to hold at least 350-400 otherwise I think its a load of crap and false advertising.

People shouldn't be justifying that you buy it has no warranty if it slips we don't care great customer service.

Its sort of like buying a pair of shoes and the soles fall off in afew months were the shoes not designed to be worn would that be warrantied same principal applies in my opinion

[Adam]

PM sent. Apologies to FPVFGS and Staino.

I've read the whole thread and didn't see a mention on how a clutches rating is determined. I'm interested to know if anyone knows?

[OED666]

  On 23/01/2013 at 11:34 AM, FPVFGS said:

I will call you tomorrow Paul ...

Luke, you didnt call me today? I don't have your number, so I can't call you.

  On 23/01/2013 at 11:45 AM, Trent0 said:

Can we make a note of how much torque people are making because as I understand the dyno reading is calculated from the wheels

where as maximum torque would be going straight to the fly wheel?

^^and if this is the case then I can't see how your 250rwkw SS point is valid as 5-600nm car doesn't compare to a 1000nm+ 350kw turbo falcon

I have attached some dyno sheets with a VE 6L and FG Turbo. Your estimate of the torque ratings is a fair bit off.

  On 23/01/2013 at 8:18 PM, spinr33 said:

Your idea that a v8 is the same as a turbo is floored one builds torque from down low in a linear fashion the other build torque rapidly in a short space of time you really carnt compare the two which one is more likely so slip the linear one or the one that's piles the torque on rapidly ?

Check the dyno sheets attached in post

  On 24/01/2013 at 12:01 AM, STAINLESS said:

Yer Mick only supplied my clutch, although I wanted him to fit it, unfortunately it all happened over christmas holidays so it went to my mates workshop.

In no way did mick steer me toward any model or brand, he only pointed out the good and bad things about some and the decision was 100% mine to get 3+..

mick also supplied a 17mm (I think) packer for the crush, which was spot on according to the guy who installed it.

So, can you please give me a run down.. When did you get your clutch? Who installed it? How long did you let it bed in for? How many k's had the car done before you had issues? If you haven't noticed, I am trying to help here. I admit I have been giving a bit of attitude, however I'm just returning what has been dished out.

  On 24/01/2013 at 3:03 AM, FPVFGS said:

Did you get my forwarded email Paul ?

Yes.

  On 24/01/2013 at 3:11 AM, Henz said:

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Pazzo XR6T" data-cid="1353565" data-time="1358930966"><p>

Do you have a clutch that is great on the street but will handle the odd drag night at a track? Only asking as you would know that 99% of people on this forum will hit the drag strip, so in knowing that I think your clutches should hold up on the track and street...not just rolling.</p></blockquote>

Bump!

You answered this without answering it.

I still believe the clutches supplied are great. Obviously these car's might need a more aggressive plate. Stainless might need an Option 4, and Luke needs cerametallic plates.

  On 24/01/2013 at 3:37 AM, Trent0 said:

I spoke to a work shop up in townsville yesterday. He said they have recently fitted a few option 3's but the kits have been missing

a few components in fact one of the kits didn't have the slave cylinder. Are you guys cutting back the kits or the someone forgot to

pack the box's properly?

Possible, but very unlikely that a clutch was sent without a slave. We are certainly not cutting costs and not supplying slave cylinders.

3 main components determine the holding capability of a clutch. Diameter of disc, disc material and pressure plate clamping force. Both the Option 3 Plus and Option 5 use premium organic materials... The 11" in the Option 3 Plus has a rather wide material face, and with the twin plate, you have 2x 10.5" discs, so there is plenty of material to grab. Both pressure plates have plenty of clamp, with a little less on the twin so that it will release nicely.

Mal has been in business for around 35 years. He knows a lot about this industry, seen alot and knows what works with driveline components. NPC where we do get some of these components from have also been around for 21 years. We have a working relationship with these products, and together have developed these clutches.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Paul off topic question but do you happen to know the bore ID of the factory b series clutch master cylinder? my research says 19.05mm?

[OED666]

  On 24/01/2013 at 10:44 AM, Ralph Wiggum said:

Paul off topic question but do you happen to know the bore ID of the factory b series clutch master cylinder? my research says 19.05mm?

That is correct. They have a 3/4" bore master, and 35mm of stroke.

[Paulie2256]

Yep that's correct luke.

Damn too slow

Edited 24/01/13 10:52 AM by Paulie2256

[FPVFGS]

Paul I wanted to make sure you got email first

[Ralph Wiggum]

  On 24/01/2013 at 10:51 AM, OED666 said:

That is correct. They have a 3/4" bore master, and 35mm of stroke.

  On 24/01/2013 at 10:51 AM, Paulie2256 said:

Yep that's correct luke.

Damn too slow

thanks Pauls

[Trent0]

  On 24/01/2013 at 10:31 AM, OED666 said:

I have attached some dyno sheets with a VE 6L and FG Turbo. Your estimate of the torque ratings is a fair bit off.

Check the dyno sheets attached in post

Not surprised at all, your dyno results are bang on what I said. **minus the FG but again, I said 350rwkw falcon, who would put in a 3+ or greater clutch in a stock FG turbo?!

The SS makes 550nm @ roughly 2750rpm

The FG makes close to 750nm @ 2750 rpm

You can clearly see the torque hits harder then the SS so I still don't understand why your comparing apples to bananas

Edited 24/01/13 01:30 PM by Trent0