k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,030 Member For: 16y 8m 1d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/01/13 08:15 AM Share Posted 21/01/13 08:15 AM Even a $600+ sound processor might not fix the situation perfectly or even at all. It is also possible that tuning the sound processor is quiteddifficult or impossible without the help of an expert. This is the problem with the factory unit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upinder Member 114 Member For: 12y 3m 15d Posted 21/01/13 04:02 PM Share Posted 21/01/13 04:02 PM the factory unit sends a bad singla out unique car audio in melb did all my work there amazing with car the guy has fg too u should hear it is really clear https://www.facebook.com/pages/Unique-Audio-Concepts/341124605974756?fref=ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALIAS-XR6T Donating Members 17 Member For: 13y 10m 10d Posted 21/01/13 11:20 PM Share Posted 21/01/13 11:20 PM u need a sound processor u can not get rid of it with out that if your in melb come and take a listen to my car its run off the icc and has no hiss sound or anything it is clear as Mine has no hiss, pops, whine and I'm using the Aerpro AP3044 ($40 converter)Believe me guys, when our car audio manager told me to try it this way, I argued the point for about 20 minutes. Saying where I have tapped is no different.When we finally agreed to do this and just run the wires directly to the amp over my centra concole and seats (as I was not going to any effort to run these properly) and wouldn't you know it. It worked. So much clearer.So obviously the next day when I had a free hour or 2, I ran all the wiring up under the centre console, tucked away neatly.So just to clarify,I have a stock Ford ICC (so I can maintain factory look and controls) tapped early as possible in wiring loom from ICC and used the most shielded, thinnest wire I could find (to eliminate as many positive electrical signals in it's pathway) and have them wired into an Aerpro AP3044.That wiring goes from under ICC, to under the centre console (where the line level converter is stashed) and then RCA leads from out under the centre console off to the amplifier. Now there is no wiring up the centre console and where I tapped, the wiring leaves individually and comes in no contact with any other looms that would contain positive wires.So the only contact it really gets, is with any of the positive wires bundled in that loom coming out the back of the ICC before I tapped. Which is obviously not enough to interfere as I have a perfect signal.It really is amazing how much signal noise you eliminate when giving them an interference free path. I only ever thought it was big 8/4 gauge power wires that gave interference. But it's really any positive wire over a certain thickness.And believe me guys, this stereo is LOUD! so it's not like I don't have the gains up high enough to hear it. And it's powering up a big RMS 5 channel amplifier.It's also all bout the tune too. Just because you have a clean enough signal, doesn't mean you can't improve it with a tune.We spent a good 30 mins tuning it by finding the best balance between the initial source, the line level output and the amplifiers gains.Audio processors are fantastic for gaining lost EQ, adjusting EQ and providing a much more controllable input signal. But they are not miracle machines that eliminate signal noise more than any other converter. That's up to you to clean up, they can only work with what they are given.If anything didn't make sense, feel free to PM me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,030 Member For: 16y 8m 1d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 27/01/13 06:39 AM Share Posted 27/01/13 06:39 AM ALIAS, so if you splice in a different point as opposed to the kick panel, where exactly do you do it? going to be tough on the drivers side, from my quick inspection of where the looms run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 16d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 28/01/13 03:03 AM Share Posted 28/01/13 03:03 AM I wanted to splice in behind the ICC to fit relays but the wiring to the white plugs in the middle that it slots into (where the speaker wires are) are hidden behind metal panels so I gave up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 1m 22d Posted 28/01/13 07:56 AM Author Share Posted 28/01/13 07:56 AM ^^This. I imagine it is pretty hard to get that close to ICC and the FG is even harder than B series.I tried a couple of things but not much is working! When I get back to canberra the guys I bought my gear off are going to check a few things and if no luck I'll just settle for the sh*t hiss but take back my $150 converter and get the cheaper one. Got to admit though, the guys set me up with an awesome quality soundsystem once the volumes cranked up! Clarity and punch are incredible value for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sct911 Member 848 Member For: 12y 1m 5d Gender: Male Posted 28/01/13 09:00 AM Share Posted 28/01/13 09:00 AM Unfortunately a $100 head unit would fix the problem, retaining the standard icc is the challenge. It probably can be done, but with difficultybeen to two professional audio places today, they both said cant fit a head unit to the FG's , Also the guy said he's been in the business for 15 years and said that vibe is better than alpine type r system, any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 1m 22d Posted 28/01/13 11:52 AM Author Share Posted 28/01/13 11:52 AM The head unit thing doesn't sound right! Prob just too big of a job they just can't be effed doing it lol.Dunno but the guys I got my stuff off got me to stay away from alpine speakers n glad I did cause the quality of my polk's is great! Really shallow mounting depth too which meant now adaptor s had to be made to fit them! Type r's are really deep speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,030 Member For: 16y 8m 1d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 28/01/13 12:16 PM Share Posted 28/01/13 12:16 PM been to two professional audio places today, they both said cant fit a head unit to the FG's , Also the guy said he's been in the business for 15 years and said that vibe is better than alpine type r system, any thoughts?If you have room under the stock head unit to mount one, I can't see why not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upinder Member 114 Member For: 12y 3m 15d Posted 28/01/13 05:57 PM Share Posted 28/01/13 05:57 PM who ever says that u can not do a head unit in a fg is bullsh*tting you they just want to make money out of you http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/img2258ez.jpg/that's my car double din right there took a while to get it all done but yeah looks sick so who ever says it cant be done show them that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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