Second Hand Sct X3 - Locked ?

[ms700]

like most things.

ducati's are half the price over in the states, harleys, volkswagens.... all cheaper in usa

I can keep going if you want.... or you can learn to accept in and move on!

[Dush73]

Ok point taken.....guess I was thinking of imports of non-US products,eg TV's etc.

Any pointers on the below, like to get a 2nd hand one but want to avoid being ripped off(due to my own lack of knowledge):

As I understand it.... if the tune is put back to stock on an existing vehicle with the Xcal, then the Xcal is unlocked/free to use on the next car, with 1 life less(5 in total)? Is that the jist of it? Or does it still need some form of unlocking? I thought they were VIN locked when your purchase one new from a Tuner/distributor

[ms700]

ok

lets put this in perspective.

the original OP bought a second hand x3. even though it was promised it wasnt locked, it was. so he has saved himself exactly zero, and by the time you factor in time wasted contacting guy who sold it, messages sent, petrol wasted in returning x3 for money back, he is actually sitting negative.

he may try hs luck agian on the second hand market, and go through the process alllll over again.

everyone who has bought a brand new x3 hasnt had any drama's.

if you want to buy second hand, call the fire brigade, and expect to get burnt. but hey, might save you a few hunge if you are lucky.

no brainer if you ask me.

[Never had any say Panda]

As above.. I wouldn't buy a second hand xcal unless it was coming from someone I knew.. I definitely wouldn't pick one up off gum tree or anything like that!

[Dush73]

Ok point taken again...don't think I would purchase without seeing it in person & hooking it up to my car & seeing that its unlocked(as mentioned in one of the above posts by "sharp Dressed Panda").

What I wanted to know is how the lock/married thing works,ie, if a used X3 is used to put the initial car back to stock tune, then its free to use on another vehicle?

Thanks for the reply's guys.

[Never had any say Panda]

Yeah it is.. But I wouldn't be using any tunes from it.. If be getting a custom tune for your car (or 3) loaded into the box.

[Dush73]

Thanks Panda,

Was reading around whilst waiting for a reply, & now more confused! 2 scenarios:

1)You buy a X3 from a tuner(mail order) & they need to know your VIN, to lock it I'm guessing? Then there are some(dare I say Gumtree) selling NEW sealed in the box,never opened, then I'm thinking doesn't it need to be VIN locked to you car 1st(via some software,etc?).

2) Buy a 2nd hand x3 that has had tune from initial car put to stock, although its free to use on the next car(less 1 life), is there anything else needed for it to work on your car that the Tune place will have to slug you for?

[ms700]

[sexual harrassment panda]

Hi guys,

I'm looking into getting an Xcal 3, but probably NEW from a Tuner, but I was wondering why are we in AUS paying double for one of these when in the US you can get them for like half the price.....seems like the main distributor/licensee is making a packet on these? Any thoughts?

American market = f150, mustang etc literally millions of cars to recoup any r&d costs

f150 sales

1999 869,001

2000 876,716

2001 911,597

2002 813,701

2003 845,586

2004 939,511

2005 901,463

2006 796,039

2007 690,589

2008 515,513

2009 413,625

2010 528,349

2011 584,917

Falcon sales by year

Sedan/wagon 60,460 53,534 54,629 73,220 65,384 53,080 42,390 33,941 31,936 31,023

Ute 13,698 16,955 17,883 20,212 20,123 18,384 15,858 13,758 12,600 12,180

2011

18,741

6,814

Edited 24/11/12 07:11 PM by sexual harrassment panda

[EvilDaifu]

Dush mate - brand new Aussie XCAL3 will be unmarried. Just like in real life - to be married something needs to be sucked outta ya and something stuck into ya - on this case it's the stock tune in ya car sucked out - at the same time VIN, some hex software signature (forgot what it's called) and the Ford software operating system is recorded in the XCAL3. Whats put in is either a custom tune (recommended) or one of the generic tunes that come standard with it to replace the stock tune. Almost everyone on here believes that the generic tunes will eventually damage your engine - always best to get a reputable tuner to make up a custom tune for you to use.

To get unmarried - just like in real life - get that stock tune outta the XCAL3 and put back into ya car. Ya only lose one of the 5 lives when ya XCAL3 plays around (farrk is this XCAL3 mirroring real life ) and in that state sucks the stock tune from a different XR6 T as an example.

Hope that helps