Guest Pippie81 Guests Posted 14/11/12 10:30 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 10:30 AM Hey Guys,First post, pity it has to be about a problem with my XR6T.Just purchased a 2010 XR6T with 47000km on the clock. Bought off a guy in Melb who had purchased the car brand new. Car was picked for split diff bushes at RWC which I was assured (by both the seller and Ford) was a common problem. Car was still under warranty and as such was returned to Knox Ford in Rowville to have the parts replaced and was thoroughly checked.Seller provided invoice from Knox which made comment about an oil leak around turbo - "Check for Oil Leak around turbo - Oil leaking out of turbo intake tube, oil in tube is from normal blow-by coming through inlet tube from PVC pipe. No fault with vehicle, removed and cleaned intake tubes and refitted making sure hose clamps tightened correctly". As part of the check the timing case oil leak was also detected and shorter bolts installed and idler pulley assembly was replaced.This check was completed on 02/11/12 and I collected the vehicle on 09/11.Today I took the car to my local Ford dealer for 45k service and when I went to collect the car I have been told by the service advisor that the Turbo needs to be replaced???? On top of this even though the car is still under warranty they have advised that it may not be covered under warranty because the "turbo has been tampered with" and it doesn't have the standard air filter installed. This will result in me being out of pocket $8k for a new turbo :o There was also a comment made in relation to blow back into the engine and hoping that this hadn't caused any damage???I have spoken with the seller (who didn't have to talk to me given it was a private sale) who has advised that he has not modified the turbo in anyway and I have opened the air box and the air filter is just a K&N aftermarket part which (in my far from experienced opinion) is a ridiculous reason to knock back a warranty claim?I have no doubt that the guy I bought the car from gave the car a squirt (who buys an XR6T and doesn't) but I highly doubt he sat there in a $50k car with his foot on the brake bouncing off the rev limiter doing a 200m skid! How easy is it to blow up a Turbo in one of these? From reading other forums I can see a number of people have had the oil leak issue from the pipe at the top of the turbo. After driving around in my trusty (and yes I know a little boring) BA MkII XR6 this is turning into a nightmare after only 5 days!!!I have attached photos of the Turbo this afternoon after collecting from Ford and you can see the oil as well as a comparison between the filter in my BA (white - which has a full service history with Ford) and the one in the Turbo.Appreciate any experiences and thoughts on the Dealers Comments!Cheers,Pip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicxr6t05 Bronze Donating Members 2,216 Member For: 13y 3m 14d Gender: Male Posted 14/11/12 10:38 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 10:38 AM Iv replaced turbos on fgs with under 20000ks but not for oil leaks... There is definitely an excessive amount of oil residue about but without being there its hard to say, the breather system is linked to the intake tube, pcv valve etc plays no part in intake oil residue as it is connected after the throttle body, whats the service history like? What oil has been used in it etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pippie81 Guests Posted 14/11/12 10:43 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 10:43 AM Car missed the 15k service however was last serviced in July last year at 31k. No idea what oil was in it previously however Ford put Shell Helix 15W/50 in it today. Is the price quoted excessive? I know these things are expensive but surely $8k is crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicxr6t05 Bronze Donating Members 2,216 Member For: 13y 3m 14d Gender: Male Posted 14/11/12 10:56 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 10:56 AM Booom there goes warranty... Mtq charge 1600 to rebuild them, 4 hours labour to fit so 5-600 dollars in labour. Ford would have quoted you a "genuine" turbo from them which is $3k I think plus all gaskets and prob a days labour, ridiculous quote, they r just being lazy... You could speak to tge service manager about warranty if they really want your business they can push for it a bit but turbos require prior approval which requires they declare mods and service history. All that is providing the turbo has failed though which I doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pippie81 Guests Posted 14/11/12 11:09 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 11:09 AM The service manager didn't say anything about the service history, so unless the car was serviced and the book wasn't stamped. Well at least $2.5k is better than $8k. Now just hope that there is nothing else wrong with the blastard thing!!!Are you saying you don't think the turbo will be blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletime Donating Members 937 Member For: 13y 10m 1d Gender: Male Posted 14/11/12 11:14 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 11:14 AM Man that's f*cked! I hope it works out for you. Forget 8k to replace stock turbo, if it was really gonna be that much you'd be better off putting bigger turbo and rest of mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicxr6t05 Bronze Donating Members 2,216 Member For: 13y 3m 14d Gender: Male Posted 14/11/12 11:14 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 11:14 AM I highly doubt it but it could be worse, that much oil is unusual, without seeing it myself and checking turbo etc its hard to say, id wash it all down again and check it every day to pinpoint where the oil is coming from and go from there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pippie81 Guests Posted 14/11/12 11:24 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 11:24 AM The car won't be driven until I hear from Ford again. Its back to the BA. I will definitely be getting a second opinion on the problem. :( I just hope it doesn't end up costing me something like the $8k. Saving grace I still have the BA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pippie81 Guests Posted 14/11/12 10:15 PM Share Posted 14/11/12 10:15 PM There is some partially good news on the warranty front. Local dealer advised that the car had been modified which the previous Ford Service provider has confirmed as being false. Car does have a full Ford service history, with the dealer not signing the log book at the 15k service however advising that only problem at service was a small problem with the electric windows. Only change to the car is a K&N air filter (not a pod) which their website states does not void the warranty.Think the dealer is trying to take me for a ride, but I hope that I am mistaken.Now I am hoping that I have enough ammunition to confront the dealer if they decline a warranty claim.Is there any way of checking if there are any additional problems (ie engine) that may have been caused by the issues with the turbo? I don't want to get to July next year when my warranty runs out and have some problem with the engine. God knows how much I would be up for for a new engine~! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicxr6t05 Bronze Donating Members 2,216 Member For: 13y 3m 14d Gender: Male Posted 14/11/12 10:37 PM Share Posted 14/11/12 10:37 PM that's good news, just give them a chance to fix it first and go from there, I checked a few fg's this morning and most of them had a residue around the turbo and cooler pipes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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