Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 3m 2d Posted 11/10/12 09:21 AM Share Posted 11/10/12 09:21 AM And a GT-P isn't?What are the GT-P's worth these days? Last time I checked the GTS was like $10k more than a GT-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletime Donating Members 937 Member For: 14y 13d Gender: Male Posted 11/10/12 09:35 AM Share Posted 11/10/12 09:35 AM Put the extra money into mods and you have something that will blow away most things from a factory anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 1m 28d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 11/10/12 12:03 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 12:03 PM Yeah but at what point does that argument become invalid though, when you bust warranty on a new car or when you could buy a clapped out BA turbo for ten grand, stick a new atomic motor in it, beef up fuel system/driveline and run 10's for like 25 grand. I'm interested in where the power will stop, surely must be in my lifetime, the end of the personal car power wars in IC engines or electric or whatever else they have in the pipeline.Bring on the blown Expensive Daewoo to give us something to be scared of again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 5m 21d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 11/10/12 07:17 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 07:17 PM I really think the power war doesn't influence people's decisions all that much..Like Holden? Buy Holden...Like Ford? Buy Ford...Each car has its pros and cons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corzza 777 Member 7,135 Member For: 15y 11m 21d Gender: Male Location: Neutral Bay. Born and Bred in the RSA Posted 11/10/12 08:04 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 08:04 PM Ford are playing their cars just right.Remember the 5.0 coyote in the states on the Shelbys are making 400kw+.All I will say is watch this space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAZY6 Member 620 Member For: 20y 2m Gender: Male Posted 11/10/12 08:37 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 08:37 PM Agree with lowfly! HSV's are so ridiculously priced anyway for what you get, if they add another $10k or so to the price then people will start looking at second hand Merc's and BMW's. Well I would personallyBring a 360 Modena into the country intead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topic97 Member 30 Member For: 12y 4m 4d Posted 11/10/12 10:08 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 10:08 PM I really think the power war doesn't influence people's decisions all that much..Like Holden? Buy Holden...Like Ford? Buy Ford...Each car has its pros and cons..Agreed. People will usually always buy what brand they are loyal to.As a long time Expensive Daewoo fan(don't worry, I'm getting a ba turbo very shortly!), they do have an extra ace up their sleeve if buyers want to chase power.You can get walkinshaw performance to strap on superchargers, suspension, exhaust etc and its all covered under factory warranty & warranty by walkinshaw.Not sure if ford has any similar tuning arms, but if a die hard Expensive Daewoo fan wanted a hsv but wanted a supercharged engine without voiding warranty, the option is there.But agreed with the power levels, sure cars are getting safer but it's a bit bizarre that they are allowed to up the power levels as well - I'd think one would negate the other and it's no different to back in the day IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunna Donating Members 813 Member For: 18y 4m 27d Posted 11/10/12 10:33 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 10:33 PM (edited) Its very different to "back in the day". The cars are a lot safer (airbags, crumple zones, dsc, etc).The forces in a crash however are always the the same (fundamentally). 100km/h is 100km/h whether you've got 5kw or 500 Edited 11/10/12 10:41 PM by bunna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradles024 Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 15y 2m 8d Gender: Male Posted 11/10/12 10:37 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 10:37 PM You get walkinshaw to supercharge your hsv and you're looking at nearly 100k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Velocity_ Bronze Donating Members 2,768 Member For: 13y 8m 28d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 11/10/12 11:06 PM Share Posted 11/10/12 11:06 PM (edited) Agreed. People will usually always buy what brand they are loyal to.As a long time Expensive Daewoo fan(don't worry, I'm getting a ba turbo very shortly!), they do have an extra ace up their sleeve if buyers want to chase power.You can get walkinshaw performance to strap on superchargers, suspension, exhaust etc and its all covered under factory warranty & warranty by walkinshaw.Not sure if ford has any similar tuning arms, but if a die hard Expensive Daewoo fan wanted a hsv but wanted a supercharged engine without voiding warranty, the option is there.Not to mention they now offer payment plans as well making it a little easier for Expensive Daewoo fans that want to get into the tuned car scene and compete with Turbo Falcons. Edited 11/10/12 11:06 PM by _Velocity_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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