bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,423 Member For: 14y 10m 25d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 13/11/12 12:07 PM Share Posted 13/11/12 12:07 PM if you dont have the confidence nor money to set yourself up with polishes and a machinepay someone to cut and polish it for you..... then just buy the right products to maintain it.ie twin bucket wash system, microfiber wash mits and numerous drying towels. and any sealant products. usually recommended by a pro detailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_mate Member 767 Member For: 18y 9m 6d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 13/11/12 04:16 PM Share Posted 13/11/12 04:16 PM As long as you are using a Random Orbital, and have half a brain I can't see how you could do damage.I learned with a rotary - and yes, I burned the paint a few (a lot of) times on some test panels before I got the hang of it. My rotary is farked and I picked up a DAS6 cheap so I use that.A lot slower, probably not as good results than with a rotary but the FG's paint is a lot nicer to work with that my previous cars.At the end of the day, if you're not into it (I am into detailing as a hobby) you are far better off paying a pro to do it for you. I have had a few of my mates have beers with me, watch me at it for 4 hrs every sat, get keen and spend up big on product only to give or sell it to me cheap 6 months later (the DAS6 above was an example) and now they fork out a few dollars once or twice a year to me and I do it for them.And as said above, you can have a nice shiny car covered in swirls. Getting the swirls and marks out is the fun part.The real pro's and those keener than me measure paint thickness. I'd be surprised if any BA - FG out there couldn't handle several good cuts over its lifetime. You're not removing too much thickness after all (and scratches down to primer will never buff out lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 1m Posted 13/11/12 09:53 PM Author Share Posted 13/11/12 09:53 PM Hey Freaky I didn't think claying would be necessary before a cut and polish because I figured the cut would get most of the crap off that claying gets rid of? I thought clay is just for when you want to apply polish or wax to remove or the crap to help the polish and wax stick down?I was thinking of just WashCut and polish (got bad swirls but not may scratches so probably just medium cut, fine cut, then polish)Then wipe it downWax (naviwax dark)So you think I need to add wash and clay before this list? What about int he future when I go to wax it every 6 months? I gather that I should clay it first but then your saying clay will scratch the car?Sorry for all the noob questions, I just wanna buy the right things because black shows every blemish possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyfrd Turboless Donating Members 5,992 Member For: 13y 8m 23d Gender: Male Location: Geelong, Victoria Posted 14/11/12 12:47 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 12:47 AM Clay is only needed about once a year. When you feel gritty sh*t in the paint that wont budge after a wash and polish..give it a clay. But don't think it's needed every 6month's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 1m Posted 14/11/12 02:12 AM Author Share Posted 14/11/12 02:12 AM Did the clay scratch your car at all when you did it the other day shy?I was thinking about buying a clay kit but just thought I would only need it before applying the wax, whether it be every 6 months or 12 months, but I don't want to use it if its going to bring back swirl marks. The car is always garaged and only does 15,000kms a year so it shouldn't be too exposed to grim etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyfrd Turboless Donating Members 5,992 Member For: 13y 8m 23d Gender: Male Location: Geelong, Victoria Posted 14/11/12 02:18 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 02:18 AM Not that I've noticed but it's got some on it already lol. Needs a good cut n polish. I was just doing it to remove the crap on the paint I couldn't get with washing. It may have scratched but it'd probably be very small. Maybe only noticeable on a totally scratch free car beforehand then look at it in the sun once dry..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET50T Donating Members 152 Member For: 13y 8m Gender: Male Location: Castle Hill Posted 14/11/12 02:25 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 02:25 AM Clay is for removing surface contaminants. It really depends on where your car is stored, how many kms you rack up and the enivorment it is driven in. I would always be claying your car before buffing. If you don't you will be contaminating the pads and also polishing dirt and grime throughout the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 1m Posted 14/11/12 06:14 AM Author Share Posted 14/11/12 06:14 AM ^ good logic. I think I might clay it before the cut and polish. Then next time I go to wax I'll give it a real quick clay first. Doesn't matter if it creates swirls this time around before the cut and polish but I'll just try be careful in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,423 Member For: 14y 10m 25d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 14/11/12 07:42 AM Share Posted 14/11/12 07:42 AM I'm on the phone atm. So short post.But you must must must clay before cutting and polishing. Will reply to questions when on PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 1m Posted 14/11/12 08:48 AM Author Share Posted 14/11/12 08:48 AM Okay clay kit on the list.So...Wash ClayWashCut and polishWax!2 months time (when I want to wax again)WashClayWaxSo this should be a good way too keep my black car looking good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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