Guest XR09 Guests Posted 13/10/12 11:15 AM Share Posted 13/10/12 11:15 AM 300 is a good Price. I own a couple of panel shops... I wouldnt do it for 300... seing the photos Id do it for 4-5. Id give each panel a LIGHT 2000 wet, followed by 3000 trizac. White waffle pad and good cutters.. for me its either 3M, or BATCH do good stuff... Grey waffle pad with a solo/medium cut then a new black waffle for wax. dont do it urself........ that is all.Can you please explain to the good folks why the right paper and a light hand is better than an idiot with a spinning machine and cutting compound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 2m 24d Posted 13/10/12 12:11 PM Author Share Posted 13/10/12 12:11 PM Yea the guys a friend of my old man's and he wouldn't really make a profit out of it. He does all my familys 5 cars when they need work and just recently got him my girflriends families 3 cars too so he looks after meHe doesn't want to sand but he was going to hit it 3 times with different pads like you mentionedI also have a friend who works for another panel beater and she has all her own buff, pads, polishes, cutting compounds etc and she said she could do it for like $150-$200 because her boss pays her like f*ck all so shes happy to make a bit extra on the weekends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,433 Member For: 15y 18d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 13/10/12 01:52 PM Share Posted 13/10/12 01:52 PM guys who work at panel shops and say they are detailers crack me up.they just do quickie jobs to make the cars look good for the customers. that's it.and still whats with all panel shops using 3M crap and saying its good, its what you all use and your bosses get cheap I <3 Bananas! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjc Donating Members 2,823 Member For: 21y 4m 8d Gender: Male Location: Townsville Posted 13/10/12 03:44 PM Share Posted 13/10/12 03:44 PM (edited) BJC, get yourself some Tar remover solvent and go around and quickly remove the black stuff before claying. You will get less marring from the clay and your clay will last longer. Carpro Tar X is good, or you could get some Trix which will remove iron contamination at the same time.Cheers Rancid but at the time I used a meguires bug and tar remover but because the tar was super thick the remover only made the surface of the tar run and when the wife started to wipe it with some terry towel it scratched the living fck out of the paint! Is there qnything you suggest apart from the clay bar that will disolve this amount of tar and not destroy the paint in the process as the clay bar somehow did not leave a single extra scratch on the car and removed 90% of the tar at the time?I should take some photos and post them up of what it did to the paint, I nearly had a fcking heart attack trying to compose myself on how she didn't see the first scratch let alone the other twenty 2inch square scratch areas she made!!!Thanksp.s. Yes the response is a little late, lol Edited 13/10/12 03:47 PM by bjc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizzink11 Member 352 Member For: 12y 5m 12d Gender: Male Posted 08/11/12 05:49 PM Share Posted 08/11/12 05:49 PM I swung a buff over a mates car last night.BeforeAfterSorry for the crap quality, not enough lighting at 3:30am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET50T Donating Members 152 Member For: 13y 9m 24d Gender: Male Location: Castle Hill Posted 08/11/12 07:55 PM Share Posted 08/11/12 07:55 PM Solids always come up awesome. Will fade and come up with swirl marks though if not done properly or maintained. We use the juice range at work now, seems to be alright. Swore by farecla for years before that though. I can also vouch for getting someone who knows what there doing to do it. May look good doing it yourself in the short term, however putting a buff to a car when you dont know what your doing will give horrible results in the months to come. Just for laughs, one of our painters old shops specialized in scratch removal and it wasn't unusual for them to spend a week buffing a car. High quality dark colored cars but still pretty crazy .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellato Donating Members 2,713 Member For: 14y 2m 24d Posted 08/11/12 09:41 PM Author Share Posted 08/11/12 09:41 PM Chit that was faded pretty bad! Came up good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizzink11 Member 352 Member For: 12y 5m 12d Gender: Male Posted 08/11/12 11:36 PM Share Posted 08/11/12 11:36 PM I know how to swing one around I have been doing it as a hobby here and there for about 7 years now but I refuse to do it as a job. Wouldn't be fun anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancidpunx Brisbanes Resident Detailer Donating Members 950 Member For: 15y 11m 23d Gender: Male Location: In my Cabin Outside Brisbane. Posted 09/11/12 09:53 AM Share Posted 09/11/12 09:53 AM Cheers Rancid but at the time I used a meguires bug and tar remover but because the tar was super thick the remover only made the surface of the tar run and when the wife started to wipe it with some terry towel it scratched the living fck out of the paint! Is there qnything you suggest apart from the clay bar that will disolve this amount of tar and not destroy the paint in the process as the clay bar somehow did not leave a single extra scratch on the car and removed 90% of the tar at the time?I should take some photos and post them up of what it did to the paint, I nearly had a fcking heart attack trying to compose myself on how she didn't see the first scratch let alone the other twenty 2inch square scratch areas she made!!!Thanksp.s. Yes the response is a little late, lolMines a little late it appears as well.Get some microfibre cloths and keep them clean. Terry towels should only be used on dirty items like under the bonnet. The tar remover makes the tar run as the solvents breaks the bonds of the tar down and should just wipe away. If that hasnt happened your wife has been scratching at it and rubbing at tar that's not broken down fully. I have not used the Megs stuff but call Waxit and ask for some Tar X.As for scratches with clay, I will guarantee you are picking up scratches. In the shade these tiny micro scratches are not noticable but they are there especially when picking up tar with the clay. If you were to flawlessly polish your bonnet and then clay it and take it out into the sun you will see them. This is how panel shops and poor detailers get away with doing crap jobs. They hand back the keys with the car in the shade where small marring is not noticable and it may look great but its out in the sun where it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizzink11 Member 352 Member For: 12y 5m 12d Gender: Male Posted 09/11/12 01:09 PM Share Posted 09/11/12 01:09 PM Rancid knows his shiet. When I can build up some annual leave I will be re booking in to get the ute done was so gutted that my boss wouldn't let me off for 1 day... nor would my work let him on premesis without a 4 day induction. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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