Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 27d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 29/02/16 12:02 PM Share Posted 29/02/16 12:02 PM I'm speaking from experience having been hit by a car twice whilst riding, both times the car driver was 100pc in the wrong. Some of the attitudes in this thread.....wow just wow. I like to ride on the road every now and then. I pay 4 rego's each year is that enough to entitle me to not be mowed down by some impatient prick? Is your time worth more than another persons life? Who would you all be blaming if (heaven forbid) if one of your family members or your child was run over whilst riding their bike? It's not often I agree with Stubbietubbie but this one of those times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Jeturbo Bob the Freaking Builder Donating Members 10,813 Member For: 15y 3m 7d Gender: Female Location: SA Posted 29/02/16 12:23 PM Share Posted 29/02/16 12:23 PM Firstly I partly agree Ralph theres no need to drive like a dick to prove a point and being aware of a rider is important and so is giving room etc however because u pay 4x reg is that enough .... Ahhhhh no wtf does u having 4 cars have to do with u having a two wheel vehicle ??? So I have 5 cars do I get a motorbike for free no I'm not talking from a revenue perspective I am more talking about a licensing perspective tbh you can have no licence and ride a pushy not knowing the road rules at all and that's fine? Really? Drink driving a bike is illegal here and so it should be ... But no licence and riding a bike should be too! U should need a course like a licence to ride a bicycle on the road.... Learn the rules and respect vehicles as well as vehicles should respect u. Bikes are the cause of so many accidents here and also get carried away with things like the tour down under .... Buy a bike... Ride like a twat in Lycra ... Cause a bunch of issues and then forget u ever rode six months later .... All too common.... U wanna join a craze then ride on the vela drme or the parks and rides along the river etc not on the road where people can get hurt. If that's what u wanna do to commute then get a bike permit or something similar which needs to be put in place. Justmy twocents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 27d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 29/02/16 12:46 PM Share Posted 29/02/16 12:46 PM "I am more talking about a licensing perspective tbh you can have no licence and ride a pushy not knowing the road rules at all and that's fine? Really? Drink driving a bike is illegal here and so it should be ... But no licence and riding a bike should be too! U should need a course like a licence to ride a bicycle on the road.... Learn the rules and respect vehicles as well as vehicles should respect u. " Flawed argument. You can have no license and still drive a car on the road, you can also get pissed and drive a car with or without your license. You can also have your license, not be pissed have done a defensive driving course and still drive like an arrogant oaf ignoring the rules and showing no respect for other vehicles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Jeturbo Bob the Freaking Builder Donating Members 10,813 Member For: 15y 3m 7d Gender: Female Location: SA Posted 29/02/16 10:09 PM Share Posted 29/02/16 10:09 PM That's true But when there's a licence plate on the back of their bikes at least those people could be identified and caught by cameras etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,972 Member For: 9y 10m 21d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 29/02/16 11:01 PM Share Posted 29/02/16 11:01 PM "Flawed argument. You can have no license and still drive a car on the road, you can also get pissed and drive a car with or without your license. You can also have your license, not be pissed have done a defensive driving course and still drive like an arrogant oaf ignoring the rules and showing no respect for other vehicles." Clearly there is a difference between what you can do and what you should do. Her point was that a licensing system should be in place, not whether or not the system could be flouted. IMO there should be mandatory licensing and registration to use any type of vehicle on public roads. Why should every single road user have to go through extensive and expensive training and also pay for every individual vehicle they want to to use on the road yet a cyclist can use the road as their personal bike track with zero experience or contribution to the upkeep of said roads? You mentioned your 4 cars Ralph. Rego would be $3000 per year in S.A. For my 6 cars it comes in at $4500 if I want to be able to use all of them, all year long, at any given time. A motorcycle license cost roughly $650 to obtain here. A car license isn't free either. A cyclist contributes nothing to use the same roads and has no accountability due the abovementioned factors. That being said, nothing is going to change the fragile nature of cycling on public roads and hence we should adjust our driving style to suit if necessary. For the paperback version dial 1800 I-WROTE-A-NOVEL. TL;DR 1. Register all vehicles on the road including bicycles. 2. License all road users including cyclists. 3. Don't drive like a dick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab WOT? Moderating Team 10,981 Member For: 11y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: Frankston, 3199 Posted 01/03/16 10:46 AM Share Posted 01/03/16 10:46 AM I remember that clip from a couple of years ago It showed the 30 seconds prior to the incident above - the cyclist "dawdled" across 3 lanes of traffic to end up where he did or something like that - was in no way the truck drivers fault - the truck driver looked to be out of his lane/cutting in because he was trying to avoid the rider in the middle of the road 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 1m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 02/03/16 02:36 PM Share Posted 02/03/16 02:36 PM In Melbourne in summer and it's raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 27d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 02/03/16 11:16 PM Share Posted 02/03/16 11:16 PM #culture 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,042 Member For: 16y 8m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 02/03/16 11:17 PM Share Posted 02/03/16 11:17 PM 1. It's not summer anymore, it's autumn. 2. It's not raining... ? -> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR023.loop.shtml 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKGSJQKS Banned 259 Member For: 9y 6m 3d Gender: Not Telling Posted 03/03/16 11:48 PM Share Posted 03/03/16 11:48 PM Anyone ever find themselves in a position where you have a physical object of some sort which you feel could be freshened up with a little intervention but instead you end up making it worse and instead of listening to your instincts by leaving it be, you have this urge to try and fix it but you just make it even worse again? Well that's what happened with something I was trying to sell. It had some dirt trapped inside and I tried spraying some cleaning solution to disperse it but this just made it worse, then I tried to open up the unit but broke it in the process, so now I can't sell it. Had I just left it the way it was then I could of at least made some money. Fortunately it wasn't overly expensive but it's a waste nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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