Options To Increasing Rear Grip.

[TJS]

^{Just swapped the rear dumlops for Toyo Proxes T1 Sport - awesome difference. Running 8" std F6E rims with 255/30/19s.}

^{Still have the dumlops on the front but no complaints there - actually not a bad front tyre, but s*#tfull for the rear.}

^{After a bit of a run in the Toyos are responsive, grippy and give HEAPS of warning before letting go. Sport Slaxx offered none - it was either grip or butter.}

^{With TC off and in manual} I ^{am getting slammed back in the seat for the 1/2 and 2/3 changes rather getting the arse end out with the std tyres. Yet to try them in the wet but research tells me they are again better.}

^{Supposedly same wear rating (240) but my rears were half gone when} I ^{picked the car up at 6,000kms last year.}

^{It's now 28,000kms and the rears are smooth as (Frosty was the previous owner so} I ^{can't be too upset with the tryes - would you?). We will see what} I ^{get out of these...}

Edited 26/08/12 10:53 PM by TJS

[TJS]

_{OK so have had the Toyos on the rear for a few weeks now - wet and dry.}

_{What a difference!}

I _{have to deliberately want to get the back end out now otherwise it just grips with a little squealing. If} I _{floor it, well no 255 road tyre is going to reel in that torque.}

_{The difference between the Toyo's Static and Dynamic coefficients of friction is very little. The Slumlops had a vast divide between these two numbers. This meant that once the Dumlops broke loose, you had to back off the throttle a long way before you gained grip again - and then only to do it all over again every few seconds. Meanwhile, that stock Honda Accord has just blown you off and is laughing at you all the way to the trye shop....}

_{In corners they don't seem to have the sidewall stiffness of the Dumbslops but surprisingly seem to hang on better - and give lots of warning before they give up.}

I _{liken the Sport Slaxx to the old BF Goddrich Radial TAs of the 1980s. Barely OK in the dry but skittish as hell in the wet.}

_{In the wet the Toyos are composed and seem to have better straight line traction than sideways -} I _{still like the Slops on the front as they have v good lateral grip in the wet and} I _{don't care about their straight line grip. Their tread directionality} I _{think plays a good part in their lateral performance.}

_{But go the Toyos Proxes T1 Sport !!! And an agressive price hunt got these for me at only $365 a piece fitted and ballanced - a bargain!}

_{but BIGGEST LESSON everyone, is to get your rear toe-in adjustment checked as even an ever-so slight mismatch will result in dramatic differences in tyre wear between the inside and outside of the tyre. Evidently (the guy said) Falcoms are notorius for their rear end to loose toe. Gutters and pothole/speedhumps are our enemy here guys so get it checked. For me, this also help the car go a little less sideways when the wheels did loose traction - this could be seen as a god or a bad thing...}

[Z2TT]

Hi Guys,

I'm in the Same Situation. Stock Power FG XR6T with King Springs on stock shocks. Factory 19" Dunlop Tyre and when revs come up it just wheelspins and can't get the power down unless I let off the throttle.

Consensus seems to be Toyo T1 or Nitto NT05..... has anybody tried both and what is the best grip for the buck?

I am going to raise the boost soon and tune it so I'd hate to see how the the stock Dunlops would perform.

Any other tyre out there that is heaps better grip than the Dunlop and not massively expensive? Really any decent improvement is good so not sure where to start.

Only thing is suspension is stiffer with King Springs so not sure how that affects what tyre is should be running. The car handles so awesome but straight line grip I dont like.

[Bulletime]

Check your tyre pressures, makes a massive difference to grip, but wears more when lower.

[turbotrana]

I had 70% worn T1 sports when I bought my car. No grip when worn. Now put NT05s and all good. I think most tyres when fresh offer the most grip.

[Benny]

^^^^ I agree. On my previous turbo XR when the Dunlops were at the end of their life they were terribly slippery and I had very little traction anywhere under 70kph. I put a fresh set on just before selling it and the difference was night and day. A worn tyre that has seen many heat cycles is going to have much less grip than a new fresh tyre. Sometimes I wonder if buying a cheaper tyre and throwing it away half worn would be better than buying an expensive one and running it as long as you can to get the life out of it.

Benny.

Edited 26/01/13 08:34 PM by Benny