pro346 Member 63 Member For: 12y 10m 15d Posted 05/07/12 03:58 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 03:58 AM Hi ive got a 07 bf ute that makes 309rwkw, it has a xforce 4 inch dump, big cat twin 2.5 system, nizpro cooler, id 1000 injectors, walbro pump and a standard opened up air box, if I get an intake plenum and a race air box how much more power will it make? Would I be better off getting a surge tank and e85 tune instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze_dk I am dissatisfied with my current employment situation Donating Members 8,610 Member For: 18y 4m 29d Gender: Male Posted 05/07/12 04:06 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 04:06 AM Surge e85 and cai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Eyes flame magnet Gold Donating Members 5,674 Member For: 16y 9m 10d Gender: Male Location: adelaide hills- 'race air' central Posted 05/07/12 04:21 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 04:21 AM dont need a surge so much for a ute. ultimately just a precaution. valve springs will need to be looked at next... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f6mark Member 2,908 Member For: 14y 12d Gender: Male Posted 05/07/12 04:54 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 04:54 AM say 10+15rwks mate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKa Donating Members 4,243 Member For: 18y 6m 5d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, VIC Posted 05/07/12 06:45 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 06:45 AM Surge and e85.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webby324 Donating Members 313 Member For: 14y 7m 27d Gender: Male Location: Yarra Valley Posted 05/07/12 06:50 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 06:50 AM (edited) Don't worry about a plenum atm. I would've thought you'd be making more than 309 atm to be honest. What boost is it running ?Next I would have thought air box, so your piping is shorter, then perhaps a surge tank. E85 depends what state you live in. In VIC it's a pain in the ass to get unless your buying it in drums and then pretty costly.Also valve springs may need replacing in the future but not atm I wouldn't have thought. Mine were starting to show signs of float with 18psi and over 370rwkw so I think you'll be right but each car is different.Also look into a turbo port and stronger actuator. Edited 05/07/12 06:51 AM by webby324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Donkey Dick Member 801 Member For: 14y 11m 7d Gender: Male Posted 05/07/12 06:55 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 06:55 AM You need larger injectors, twin pumps & fuel line that is compatible with Ethanol to run E85, not just a surge tank. Cost adds up if you do it properly...Seeing as you already have ID1000's I'd be looking at twin 044 pumps mounted in the tray with a generic 3L surge tank, -6 teflon braided dual lines to a PW twin feed rail, aeromotive reg with -6 single teflon braided return line & a PW airbox tuned on E85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum Donating Members 553 Member For: 15y 9m 3d Gender: Male Posted 05/07/12 09:18 AM Share Posted 05/07/12 09:18 AM Don't worry about a plenum atm. I would've thought you'd be making more than 309 atm to be honest. What boost is it running ?Next I would have thought air box, so your piping is shorter, then perhaps a surge tank. E85 depends what state you live in. In VIC it's a pain in the ass to get unless your buying it in drums and then pretty costly.Also valve springs may need replacing in the future but not atm I wouldn't have thought. Mine were starting to show signs of float with 18psi and over 370rwkw so I think you'll be right but each car is different.Also look into a turbo port and stronger actuator.Theres plenty of united servos that sell it in VICYou need larger injectors, twin pumps & fuel line that is compatible with Ethanol to run E85, not just a surge tank. Cost adds up if you do it properly...Seeing as you already have ID1000's I'd be looking at twin 044 pumps mounted in the tray with a generic 3L surge tank, -6 teflon braided dual lines to a PW twin feed rail, aeromotive reg with -6 single teflon braided return line & a PW airbox tuned on E85.All the parts listed above are NOT required for your car to make decent power, you would only NEED a surge tank & 044 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MX Dave Donating Members 545 Member For: 13y 10m 21d Gender: Male Posted 06/07/12 12:08 AM Share Posted 06/07/12 12:08 AM I think slash meant to use those parts If intending to run on E85. If it where my car I'd make a surge with 044, add a cold air intake, change the wastegate actuator and valve springs then retune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum Donating Members 553 Member For: 15y 9m 3d Gender: Male Posted 06/07/12 07:53 AM Share Posted 06/07/12 07:53 AM yes my response was in relation to running and producing good power on E85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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