Aps Phase 3 Road Test

[tx3dude]

I have no doubt that NIZPRO do great work, and that guys car flies but its true running that sort of boost at that those revs shouldnt really be a problem. from memory there was an XR6 ute N/A in zoom ages ago the article was called workhorse wakeup. that car had well over 100 000ks on it when they twin turboed that. produced good power and lasted nearly 100 000 more kays in turbo form. the basic engineering in this engine was started nearly 40 years ago. and to those that think japanese engineering is superior ie skyline GTR, ask yourself what country the JUN 2.7 litre stroker kit was built in .... AUSTRALIA. SEQUENTIAL 6 SPEED? ...HOLINGER AUSTRALIA.

as for australian police in XR6t's .....BASTARDS...

[bcl]

Ken,

and your patience and tolerance with what may appear to be negative and questioning feedback.

I assume you're referring to me.

Yes, it might appear negative, but by questioning issues we'll all learn more about our cars, what works and what doesn't work. Please keep an open mind, as there are a number of companies out there all doing a lot of work, from which we'll all benefit, and some approach their solutions in different ways.

Whilst you all have Peter on this forum why don't ask Peter questions about the car and this upgrade.

And by the way my car has great low down torque; by 2500 revs (80kph) it makes 4800N, & 8000N by 3300 revs. By comparison a stock T has a max torque of around 4700N.

Peter, are you running biggers injectors to that of stage 2, and a higher rated fuel pump? I'll be very interested to see where you go with Stage 4.

Regards,

Brian

[KEN 24T]

Ken,

and your patience and tolerance with what may appear to be negative and questioning feedback.

I assume you're referring to me.

Yes, it might appear negative, but by questioning issues we'll all learn more about our cars, what works and what doesn't work. Please keep an open mind, as there are a number of companies out there all doing a lot of work, from which we'll all benefit, and some approach their solutions in different ways.

Brian,

I was referring to you, but I mean no personal offence. I agree that questions should/must be asked. I'm contemplating spending a substancial amount on my car and as I have little or no mechanical knowledge, I am at the mercy of the suppliers.

That's what's so great about this forum ... you guys who (seem to) know what you're talking about do battle over technical issues and us non-mechanical types reap the rewards.

My compliment to APS (Peter) was given because I believe, based on this and many other APS-related threads, that Peter appears to be giving us the facts and the truth about his product without agro or ego. Judging by his posts, I would be comfortable trying his product, because I get the feeling he would do the right thing and could be trusted.

My comment about his patience and tolerance was based on putting myself in his position and having to defend his product, not only in this thread, but many others I have read.

I pride myself on having an open mind and I can't help feeling that APS is winning the hearts and minds, based on truth, openness and honesty.

My opinion.

[1axr]

and so say all of us

[aps]

Brian and guys, That’s the benefit of the phase 2 system, the fuel injectors and fuel pump are mammoth and are sufficient to support phase 3 power level. This is one of the reasons why our phase 2 system offers incredible value. The exhaust and fuel system is designed for very high horsepower and therefore does not become redundant under 500 horsepower (375kw), in addition the injectors we specify are of the multy orifice type which delivers optimum atomization of fuel for enhanced combustion, greater fuel efficiency, better engine response and cleaner engine emissions.

For the life of me I can't understand why some are using old style pintle type single orifice injectors - it's like fitting drum brake technology to an 03 model car.

You won't need to wait very long to see where APS is heading with the phase 4 system, take a peep at the front cover of Feb motor magazine (on sale 15th Jan 2004).

Brian I hope all goes well with your upgraded T, I don't intend any disrespect to your approach, in any event it is interesting to see and talk about the different technology tuning companies adopt. I am very passionate when it comes to performance and I have spent a life time designing and producing turbo systems and ancillaries, if my input challenges your view point maybe this might benefit you and others on the forum. We all continue to learn more every day about this engine and it's potential power output, I am sure I know more than what I did yesterday and I will learn more tomorrow.

Have a good xmas break

Peter

APS

[curious]

Ken 24T

Hey thanks for your compliment. - I try to stay objective. If you guys have all the information, it just may save you a little money and a load of unnecessary drama. I agree Police don't need more power. - To the contrary. I would give them a detune to about 190kW and they still would crash half the fleet.

that's it that damn ute is over the pits to find anything that may be wrong.

Hang on you tail light is out.......smash.

We dont need your help weve done an engine and gearbox already.

drive safe all

[aps]

that's it that damn ute is over the pits to find anything that may be wrong.

Hang on you tail light is out.......smash. 

We dont need your help weve done an engine and gearbox already.

drive safe all

Curious,

I have already ordered a spare set of taillights, but please go easy! :lol:

240kW is more than enough power - just brake later - that seems to be the technique used by our local force.

Peter

APS

[ktford]

This has all been very interesting. Police drivers, please? Don't critise them or Uncle Ponch will have a coronary

Scotty

[DallasQLD]

Gents:

Lets ensure that this thread stays about the APS product and not a slanging match between upgrade providers.

BCL:

In the light of the fact that your car has been "nNzmoded", your comments are likey to be seen as biased along with anyone who has fitted APS gear.

Obtaining the power outpuys that APS, Nizpro and others do is by their own development techniques and each manufacturer will have their own approach.

There will be testimaonials by all customers as to who delivers the best bang for the buck.

Lets not get into comparisons about pistons, boost pressures etc as its all based upon each cars state of modifaction and clear its hard to compare one product to another.

The real test is how each supplier stands by their work in the event of a problem.

And that a topic for another thread.

Well done to APS for a great Review. Lets keep this thread about the topic, not about other build strategies.

Xr6T Thread Marshall - gun deployed........

[100%]

Lets not get into comparisons about pistons, boost pressures etc as its all based upon each cars state of modifaction and clear its hard to compare one product to another.

And so should your gun be deployed!!

What is the "Modifications and Workshop " Forum for if we can't hear what everyone is doing and make OUR OWN judgements from the info provided by each. I agree no party should be here bagging the opposition, but they should all be able to put their case forward for us to consider before forking out $$$. Sure you can't compare two totally different cars, but unless we know how each got to where it is, how do we make our decision on who to go to.

IMO let 'em go as long as it's not turned into a b#tch fight!

(puts up forcefiled to deflect incoming fire!)