MYWPN Donating Members 554 Member For: 19y 11m 14d Gender: Male Location: Bendigo Posted 14/06/12 11:53 AM Share Posted 14/06/12 11:53 AM I'd agree they work on standard to mild applications. I'd agree with ninka with the torsionalvibration without the extra weight would be detrimental to the bottom end espicially the crankshaft if u could run light or no pulley why would car companies even put them on. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_BA_XR6 Member 271 Member For: 17y 15d Gender: Male Location: Castle Hill Posted 14/06/12 12:04 PM Share Posted 14/06/12 12:04 PM I ment to say it made difference to my Na motor/ Na set up apologies but turbo have no idea I put it on because I transferred it from Na motor but I still stick to anything lighter will be an advantage personal thought not a mechanic, don't see how it would affect really the crank seeing people buy the lighten flywheel and clutch kit from malwood and the flywheel is about 1kg lighter than standard and people still pushing the 390 kw mark off the stock engine/crank. so you saying putting the lighten engine balancer on the front won't have same affect as the lightened flywheel. I put both on so it's matched weight off both sides as well as the fact I already had the lighten engine balancer and I needed stronger clutch, ( my thought) I see taking equal/or bloody close weight off both sides is ok seeing its matched it's then balanced again to standard setup just lighter, having less weight will give you quicker revs (more Throttle response, possibly torque gains from mid to high revs because of less combustion is made to turn the crank with the lighten flywheel and balancer) but you lose low Down torque,If I was to buy pulley I would buy something what has passed in racing criteria they would have some time fluid in balancer I beleive to help get rid of any vibration by the fluid which would run to spot were its not balanced such as power bond pulleyType not time fricken iPhone auto dictionary Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroozin Menace Donating Members 1,990 Member For: 14y 1m 25d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 14/06/12 01:04 PM Share Posted 14/06/12 01:04 PM http://listverse.com/2007/10/12/top-10-rules-of-punctuation/ Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunjennifer21 Member 95 Member For: 13y 11m 14d Posted 15/06/12 06:03 AM Author Share Posted 15/06/12 06:03 AM dont all the kits come with the crank shaft pulley anyway ? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_BA_XR6 Member 271 Member For: 17y 15d Gender: Male Location: Castle Hill Posted 15/06/12 06:22 AM Share Posted 15/06/12 06:22 AM What do you mean? mate Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 5m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 15/06/12 10:22 AM Share Posted 15/06/12 10:22 AM On 15/06/2012 at 6:03 AM, shaunjennifer21 said: dont all the kits come with the crank shaft pulley anyway ?The "Crankshaft Pulley" is the Harmonic Balancer, and a good one will cost you quite a few hundred $$ so in most cases I have seen, it is not part of a "Pulley Kit" Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradey Member 72 Member For: 16y 3m 25d Posted 15/06/12 10:38 AM Share Posted 15/06/12 10:38 AM Well I have to sons on this With different opinions, who would have thought , both with valid points but the real answer is the lighter the rotating mass the quicker the motor will rev and as long as the parts are of equal strength the lighter motor mass will always be more reliable as there are less forces exerted on that massGo ahead flame away 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1600dave Donating Members 872 Member For: 14y 5m 6d Posted 15/06/12 10:55 AM Share Posted 15/06/12 10:55 AM The harmonic balancer is there for a reason, I dare say removing it will not improve reliability. Performance gains on a 4l turbo motor probably wouldn't be noticeable. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,332 Member For: 19y 8m 24d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 15/06/12 11:21 AM Share Posted 15/06/12 11:21 AM On 15/06/2012 at 10:38 AM, tradey said: Well I have to sons on this With different opinions, who would have thought , both with valid points but the real answer is the lighter the rotating mass the quicker the motor will rev and as long as the parts are of equal strength the lighter motor mass will always be more reliable as there are less forces exerted on that massGo ahead flame awayThe lighter mass damper wont be able to absorb as vibration as the standard damper either. Gain rev's loose ability to absorb harmonic imbalance. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 5m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 15/06/12 11:46 AM Share Posted 15/06/12 11:46 AM On 15/06/2012 at 11:21 AM, Ralph Wiggum said: The lighter mass damper wont be able to absorb as vibration as the standard damper either. Gain rev's loose ability to absorb harmonic imbalance.And the Harmonic Balancer is quite small in diameter which also makes weight reductions less effective in terms of increased responsiveness, as inertia is quite small.Back in the day when running small 4 cyl engines, lightening the flywheel (large inertia due to diameter) would make a small but noticeable difference, but for our large 4L engines, the Harmonc Balancer is not going to make a noticeable difference.The statement that lighter is better stands, however it is just that the Balancer is not on it's own going to make a massive difference. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/80069-light-weight-pulley-kits/page/2/#findComment-1254678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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