Aps Prices.

[cuspub]

Peter/Managing Director/APS.

I didn't mention the Stage 111 kit's boost level apart from what you have stated on your web site Peter.

But then getting one's facts right means they must first read what is in front of them.

[aps]

  cuspub said:

Just for the record, pull out the 1/4 mile calculator (if you haven't one, go here: My Webpage lets for the sake of it multiply the 512rwhp by 25% for 640 horsepower, add in the weight of the vehicle with driver (say 3950 pounds), enter this into the calculator and the car should achieve a 10.68 @ 127.5 mph. On a perfect run.

Umm, sorry, but the APS vehicle is way off that. That being the case, do you really feel that you should believe everything you're told?

cuspub/Greg Brindley - Nizpro PR Consultant

Unfortunately, you are confused The blue APS PHASE III ute which ran 11.63 sec @121.65 mph was at 330 kw (442 hp) at the tyres. And that was into an incredibly strong head wind. We hope to go quicker tonight if conditions are favourable.

The 511 hp quoted was measured at the Ford / Expensive Daewoo show in Melbourne. This was another of our in house engineering vehicles (Silver sedan – man trans). This vehicle has absolutely no relevance to the PAHSE III times recorded at Calder Park last Friday (with the blue auto APS ute in PHASE III specification).

So all of your comments about the ¼ mile calculator are not relevant when applied to the incorrect vehicle of a different weight and power level.

Disappointing to see that you’ve taken the opportunity to again post incorrect information on the Dyno Dynamics dynamometer. Have a look here for factual information on the estimated flywheel power figure – you will see that you were over 40 kW off the money. I wonder if your criticism is in any way connected to the fact that you promote another brand of dynamometer.

It is time that opposition companies got their facts straight before shooting off on a public forum. It is just not fair and professional to forum members – you are doing your employer a disservice and if I were in his position I would pull you into line.

We look forward to seeing you at Calder tonight with your hand built mega dollar motec equipped engine. It will be interesting to see what times you run in the sedan. We'll be there with in our ute with a completely stock Ford XR6 Turbo engine. As the old saying goes, it’s not over until the fat lady sings. So all you XR6 Turbo enthusiasts better get out to Calder tonight, anything could and may happen.

One this is for sure, let’s hope that the XR6 Turbos put on a good show and give the others a spanking.

Also, let's just keep to the facts - it's more valuable for everyone.

Peter

APS

[ducatijb]

What genuine rwkw am I going to get with a stage 1 APS kit??

[Grant]

[aps]

  cuspub said:

Using a Dyno Dynamics rule of thumb, the Stage 111, 330rwkw kit will acheive approximately 440 engine kW or 590 horsepower. That at just 14-15 psi. Yea right!

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I didn't mention the Stage 111 kit's boost level apart from what you have stated on your web site Peter.

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Greg,

The misinformation you continue to post on this forum is becoming tiresome and just not fair to the forum members

On this very thread, you said APS PHASE III runs 14-15 psi when we have clearly stated 17 psi.

Then you said you obtained the PHASE III boost pressure from our web site. I can't understand how you did this as that data was never placed on our PHASE III web page.

Please, for the sake of forum members ensure that your facts are correct prior to posting.

Peter

APS

[1axr]

is it time to close this post too or can we keep watching the fireworks.

where is chiptorque, they haven't added there two cents worth yet.

[Grant]

Greg,

I would have to agree with a view I read earlier - if you are representing Nizpro you are doing a poor job of it.

If you can provide us with some FACTS about the Nizpro kits and let Peter do the same then all the members of this forum would be able to make an informed decision. As it stands Peter is representing APS as a company that will discuss the details of their kit and provide information regardless of whether people will or won't buy their kit.

You on the other hand (even as a contractor) are showing Nizpro to be petty, dirt flinging and willing to cast aspersions on others rather than raise up your own product. I wonder how much they would thank you for that?

From the numbers, Nizpro would seem to have the edge as far as power goes, however they do cost more money. I for one would like to read some information about the Nizpro kit, rather than watch a one sided pissing contest.

Please feel free to prove me wrong.

[TURBO4LT]

I agree with GRANT, if you want to promote Nizpro that's fine but dont do it by trying to discredit other products. We need information on this forum not a war of words......thanks for your info about your product Peter..hope you guys get a low ET tonight......

[Cobra]

strewth ... one thread closed and this one is way off the topic

APS prices ......

the sky is looking a little full of water and there are showers in tonights forecast

Calder is the place to be tonight

I'm parking inside the venue, I'd hate to have my ute scratched in the highway carpark

lets get the heat out of the air and into the rubber !!!!!!

please don't rain ...

[Falchoon]

A question for APS, I'm not trying to sling mud, rather just find out facts.

There seems to be at least 2 different ways of wiring into . The local agent here in Canberra seems to ad an extra wire into the ECU (still looks neat) and other APS agent I read about on the forum (can't recall who or where, might be Melb) wires into something in/under/behind the dash. Can you please comment on this.

I have to agree that cuspub I don't think you are doing yourself or Nizpro any favours here with your negative comments towards APS on this thread and the other Engine Management thread (that is now closed). I am very interested in the Nizpro setup and would like to hear more about it. I'm sure constructive criticism is OK but your comments seem to be more than that.

My 2c worth.

Disclaimer: I do not have any association either personal or professional with any tuning comapnies