f6mark Member 2,908 Member For: 13y 9m 12d Gender: Male Posted 25/02/12 05:08 AM Share Posted 25/02/12 05:08 AM well done inpellor.. that well work well mate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro82 Bronze Donating Members 23 Member For: 12y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 25/02/12 08:23 AM Author Share Posted 25/02/12 08:23 AM I personally don't believe that I would get any greater benefit from an aftermarket CAI system. Further, all I have done is cut the lower section of the airbox, so I only need to obtain a new lower section if I wish to take back to standard. CheersMight as well go this way and see for myself. Worst comes to worst I can always pull the whole thing out and then put a aftermarket one in later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar Member 24 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Posted 09/03/12 04:02 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 04:02 AM mate growler and big mouth cold air induction kit..take the sickers off and it looks factory mate..IMO the cross over is a better option, turbo side intake? the hot side of the engine?..that's not cold air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjet Skid Machine Donating Members 1,640 Member For: 13y 6m 2d Gender: Male Posted 09/03/12 04:28 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 04:28 AM You have lots to learn young serdar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar Member 24 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Posted 09/03/12 04:53 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 04:53 AM mate the exhaust manifold and the turbo are the hottest components on an engineturbo side - hot air short distance for it to travelcrossover - cold air longer distance to travelcold air is dense which means more of it...a turbo engine doesnt need it to travel a short distance (although it helps of coarse it does) but being a turbo its actully creating that sucking of air from the shaft spinning due to the exhaust gas..I know you're big power houses incorporate a short distance air filter or no filter at all (open housing) but look at the size of those turbos..they're huge lag would be a massive issue so the short distance that air has travel would be alot more effective in that case..this bloke said his looking for basic upgrades I think a crossover CAI would be good for himim speaking in the terms of FG IMO I dont know what side the airbox is factory on a BA I dont have a BA hence..I dont really care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 3d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 09/03/12 05:01 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 05:01 AM mate the exhaust manifold and the turbo are the hottest components on an engineturbo side - hot air short distance for it to travelcrossover - cold air longer distance to travelNew to turbo cars mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar Member 24 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Posted 09/03/12 05:14 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 05:14 AM New to turbo cars mate?ok FG turbogrwoler CAI and big mouth which sucks cold air from the grille.located on the FG is the intake manifold hence being HOTTER than the other side which is the turbo side being the HOTTER sidea turbo side intake is much hotter but travels a shorter distance..mate I work for a diesel engine mobtake your car for a dyno and if you had to choose a compnent to pull off straight after between a turbo and an intake manifold you would choose the manifoldhow do I know? because ive been in the position dyno a truck turbo blows...turcks gotta go...get in there and change that turbo....ive got burns permanently on my hands to prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 3d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 09/03/12 05:31 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 05:31 AM ok FG turbogrwoler CAI and big mouth which sucks cold air from the grille.located on the FG is the intake manifold hence beingHOTTERthan the other side which is the turbo side being the HOTTER sideDid you mean cooler..?a turbo side intake is much hotter but travels a shorter distance..mate I work for a diesel engine mobtake your car for a dyno and if you had to choose a compnent to pull off straight after between a turbo and an intake manifold you would choose the manifoldhow do I know? because ive been in the position dyno a truck turbo blows...turcks gotta go...get in there and change that turbo....ive got burns permanently on my hands to prove itTwo issues with your logic,1. The longer the intake path before the turbo, the higher the turbo inlet pressure ratio. (look it up)2. The amount of time the air spends in a turbo side CAI is so minute the heat transfer is minimal. A well designed CAI will still draw cool air from outside the engine bay. (A pod hanging off the turbo obviously wont) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar Member 24 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Posted 09/03/12 05:57 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 05:57 AM Two issues with your logic,1. The longer the intake path before the turbo, the higher the turbo inlet pressure ratio. (look it up)2. The amount of time the air spends in a turbo side CAI is so minute the heat transfer is minimal. A well designed CAI will still draw cool air from outside the engine bay. (A pod hanging off the turbo obviously wont)sorry mate I did mean colder side...turbo inlet pressure ratio? the pressure divided between air entering the turbo and the difference to when its entering the inlet manifold?...maybe it might but IMO I think piping size from intake housingof to CAC and CAC to intake manifold would effect that...but I think that more of an engineering aspect...only thing we need to worry about is your inlet boost pressure which is wastegate related and just helpd overboost...I don't think the ratio means anything to us, none of us are engineers...we're just blokes doing up cars...and your're number 2 point is absolutley correct...but look up FG turbo side intakes...they're very poor sitting directly behind the headlight...that's not very efficient for clean air...I think anyway...CAC is the american term for intercoolersorry to be difficult its just what im used to calling it from work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar Member 24 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Posted 09/03/12 05:58 AM Share Posted 09/03/12 05:58 AM ***intake housing of turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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