retro-xr6t Donating Members 95 Member For: 15y 1m 26d Gender: Male Posted 28/07/12 11:03 PM Share Posted 28/07/12 11:03 PM (edited) Nah not gonna be running Drive by Wire. At least that's the plan at the moment anyway lol. Reason being I wont be running a B series throttle body. Edited 28/07/12 11:04 PM by retro-xr6t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stee3 Member 194 Member For: 13y 8m 15d Posted 30/07/12 11:42 PM Share Posted 30/07/12 11:42 PM Nah not gonna be running Drive by Wire. At least that's the plan at the moment anyway lol. Reason being I wont be running a B series throttle body.If your going to do away with the Drive By Wire I would also get rid of the VCT as well and fit a set of Atomic Fixed gears into it. Then you can use any ECU you like on it. I did the same for a guys with an AU, he removed the DBW and put on a proper throttle body and I installed Atomic Fixed Cam gears into it then wired in a WOLF ECU. I will be retro fitting my motor to an older falcon after the summernats and I have already done away with the VCT. lIl wire in a WOLF once its out of the BA. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-xr6t Donating Members 95 Member For: 15y 1m 26d Gender: Male Posted 31/07/12 12:33 PM Share Posted 31/07/12 12:33 PM I'd like to retain Vct as it helps keep peak torque longer.In saying that why have you opted to remove Vct and drive by wire? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stee3 Member 194 Member For: 13y 8m 15d Posted 01/08/12 01:34 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 01:34 AM I'd like to retain Vct as it helps keep peak torque longer.VCT on barras is more for emission and fuel economy IMO. I don’t think you will see much of a power loss removing them infact adjusting them correctly will give you a much better torque curve. I’m also not really looking for fuel economy or emission I’m after the maximum amount of power I can get out of it. Once I start tuning it which is I hope will be next week I will adjust my cams using the vernier sprocket adjustment to get the power where I need it plus running a higher volume oil may affect the VCT. I have not removed the drive by wire yet I’ll do that once its fitted into the older falcon. I don’t want to have to transplant a B series pedal assembly into an older car plus I prefer cable all day every day and not to mention I prefer an aftermarket computer. I’m not really a huge fan of the standard computer for high HP applications I prefer to use an aftermarket unit, don’t get me wrong the standard PCM works great but there are so many more advantages to using a Motec or a Wolf etc. From a tuning point of view I prefer to tune on an aftermarket computer than the standard ECU so much more simpler and it makes more sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,331 Member For: 19y 5m 17d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 01/08/12 01:46 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 01:46 AM VCT > No VCT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 01/08/12 02:53 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 02:53 AM I prefer to use an aftermarket unit, don’t get me wrong the standard PCM works great but there are so many more advantages to using a Motec or a Wolf etc. From a tuning point of view I prefer to tune on an aftermarket computer than the standard ECU so much more simpler and it makes more sense to me.what advantages in using the wolf and the motec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 01/08/12 02:55 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 02:55 AM VCT on barras is more for emission and fuel economy IMO. I don’t think you will see much of a power loss removing them infact adjusting them correctly will give you a much better torque curve.VCT gives a longer torque range, no cam set in a fixed position will match the torque spread of vct on the same cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 8m 4d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 01/08/12 07:32 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 07:32 AM what advantages in using the wolf and the motec?Can use a 4bar MAP sensor without fudging the calibration! I agree with what you're getting at though :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 01/08/12 08:09 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 08:09 AM it was a genuine question though, I think the wolf is a low level ecu and except for possibly top of the line motecs, the motec would be inferior, but just wanted calrification in case I'm incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 16y 11m 20d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 01/08/12 08:19 AM Share Posted 01/08/12 08:19 AM I had a motec m400 And a receipt coming close to $5k for purchase plus install including a few motec extras. It was tuned well though. My passenger floor never fell out, no loose intake bolts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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