HID Lights

[bossmang]

Anyone tried to fit HID's to the FG MKII? I'm keen to fit some to mine.

Benny.

yer k31th did to his brothers fg mkII gt. im sure he will post how he went soon.

Edited 21/05/12 11:18 AM by Ford Freak

[Shyfrd]

He mentioned fitting the HID lights to the projector lights was a biatch on the weekend. Also the guy I bought my HID's off, he said they're a bit of a pain in the ass but do-able

[k31th]

If only I had taken photo's to show how different it is in an FGII... so... let's see if I can explain it without pictures...

H7's from memory, so it is simpler to install than a High-Low kit, in theory...

So, the stock globe is held in by a metal bracket that has small metal "v-shaped" bits on each end, that if you turn it slightly anticlockwise, the entire assembly comes away simply, including the plug, bracket and globe. You have to use a flat-blade screwdriver to lever the globe out of this metal bracket, as it holds pretty tightly, then to disconnect it from the wiring itself, you lever up the underside edges of the metal bracket to get them off each side of the plastic plug and the metal bracket comes away from the plug...

Firstly you can't get the bracket over all the wiring all the way up to the bulb itself because the opening isn't big enough for the bigger plastic clips to fit through, so further up the wiring (closer to the bulb base) I cut each wire (noting which is which first) and slid the bracket over and re-crimped (solder if you want) after the bracket was in place.

Now comes the difficult bit... the metal bracket which grips the bulb base has a very small opening at the back, which doesn't allow room for a traditional HID bulb (with its plastic housing behind the metal bracket) to fit through, it is too fat, basically... What I did was file back the edges of the plastic on the sides of the HID bulb base in accordance with the rectangular opening on the back of the metal bracket and slipped the bracket over this. Takes a bit of doing, but it's not impossible. If the bracket gets bent, you have to bend the "v-shaped" bits on the end back so they have pressure on the original "L-shaped" holders. This then holds the bulb correctly in place.

It's almost the same steps as with the B-series with the waterproof cover, you have to cut a hole in the middle to be able to slide it over all the wiring and then the globe housing where it is to do it's job.

Another minor issue is that the factory loom doesn't have a distinct pos/neg on it, so either check with a multimeter, or plug in the HID one way and test it, if it doesnt work, go the other way, and mark one of the factory wires with tape or some other indicator. Once this is all done, tuck away/zip-tie the wiring loom and refit the stuff you took off to get access to the bulbs and hey presto!!! no need to re-aim with projector headlights (if the factory aim was correct).

Enjoy your HID's that hardly filled yellow-ish beam is now bright and full of a white (or blue) light of the HID and your driving at night will be 10x better than with Halogen's.

[serdar]

Just fitted H4s, H11s and led parkers to my FG

and honestly when you see the result you will wonder why they bring cars out from factory with that disgusting yellow halogen light.

I replaced the h4s without removing air box or battery BUT when it came to moutning and hiding the wiring, ballast and HID harness, I decided to remove both so I could have more room and get everything perfectly neat..

the H11s are easy remove the bottom stone gaurd and you have all the room in the world abit of double sided tape and mount everything to inside of the bar!

I can't wipe the smile off my face when I hit the lights.....just gotta wait till I get my licence back and take the car for a roadie and adjust headlight position according to how many highbeam flashes I get whilst driving

[1600dave]

wonder why they bring cars out from factory with that disgusting yellow halogen light.

Because they're cheap and legal, wouldnt be a cheap factory option if they were to offer HID's

[dre]

Maybe not but at least they would finally catch up to the rest of the world.

Never understood why these cars so much when they have cut corners at every chance.

[Benny]

If only I had taken photo's to show how different it is in an FGII... so... let's see if I can explain it without pictures...

H7's from memory, so it is simpler to install than a High-Low kit, in theory...

So, the stock globe is held in by a metal bracket that has small metal "v-shaped" bits on each end, that if you turn it slightly anticlockwise, the entire assembly comes away simply, including the plug, bracket and globe. You have to use a flat-blade screwdriver to lever the globe out of this metal bracket, as it holds pretty tightly, then to disconnect it from the wiring itself, you lever up the underside edges of the metal bracket to get them off each side of the plastic plug and the metal bracket comes away from the plug...

Firstly you can't get the bracket over all the wiring all the way up to the bulb itself because the opening isn't big enough for the bigger plastic clips to fit through, so further up the wiring (closer to the bulb base) I cut each wire (noting which is which first) and slid the bracket over and re-crimped (solder if you want) after the bracket was in place.

Now comes the difficult bit... the metal bracket which grips the bulb base has a very small opening at the back, which doesn't allow room for a traditional HID bulb (with its plastic housing behind the metal bracket) to fit through, it is too fat, basically... What I did was file back the edges of the plastic on the sides of the HID bulb base in accordance with the rectangular opening on the back of the metal bracket and slipped the bracket over this. Takes a bit of doing, but it's not impossible. If the bracket gets bent, you have to bend the "v-shaped" bits on the end back so they have pressure on the original "L-shaped" holders. This then holds the bulb correctly in place.

It's almost the same steps as with the B-series with the waterproof cover, you have to cut a hole in the middle to be able to slide it over all the wiring and then the globe housing where it is to do it's job.

Another minor issue is that the factory loom doesn't have a distinct pos/neg on it, so either check with a multimeter, or plug in the HID one way and test it, if it doesnt work, go the other way, and mark one of the factory wires with tape or some other indicator. Once this is all done, tuck away/zip-tie the wiring loom and refit the stuff you took off to get access to the bulbs and hey presto!!! no need to re-aim with projector headlights (if the factory aim was correct).

Enjoy your HID's that hardly filled yellow-ish beam is now bright and full of a white (or blue) light of the HID and your driving at night will be 10x better than with Halogen's.

Thanks K31th,

Sounds doable with your explanation. What HID's did you buy? Do you have a link?

Thanks,

Benny.

[Shyfrd]

Have a look through this thread, you'll find links to the HID's people have bought for their cars

[k31th]

Hey Benny,

The ones my brother bought are 100% genuine philips, and the wiring is of a much higher standard than cheaper alternatives, and the light output is nothing short of perfect, but they do cost quite an extensive amount more. (never previously listed in this thread)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Brand-New-Genuine-PHILIPS-H7-6000K-Xenon-35W-HID-CANBUS-Conversion-Kit-/120803164584?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c206e01a8#ht_3355wt_1037

The ones that I buy have genuine philips globes and genuine philips ballasts, but the wiring is the exact same as on cheap counterparts, but I believe it is quite satisfactory and work really well for the H4 hi/lo kit's I've bought for falcons and their reflector globe housings. (previously listed in this thread by myself)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H4-H-L-HID-Philips-PL-Kit-FALCON-AU-BA-BF-XR6-XR8-/200423636332?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eaa2dfd6c#ht_1769wt_1037

Or, if you want a cheap one and are OK with a compromise in quality or the chance of failure etc, then these seem like a good choice (I have some in my work car, and they've only been on for a few weeks, so who knows how long they'll last.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/35w-XENON-HID-Conversion-Kit-Slim-H4-Hi-Lo-Bi-XENON-4300K-6000K-8000K-/280803211328?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item41612cf840#ht_12623wt_1065

[profrat]

Hi Guys, I have read through this whole thread because I am looking to do H/L H4 and High beam H7 on my BA-T.

Is there any positive feedback on the kits bought from Alex, Z-labs? They appear to have DC ballasts and I have read warnings that these my be a problem.

If other peoples experiences have been good with these I will try them as the price is right.

If not, are there any better suggestions? Are the AutoVisionAustralia ones doing the job? http://www.ebay.com....ht_12623wt_1065

Thanks, Andrew