Panda Eyes flame magnet Gold Donating Members 5,674 Member For: 16y 6m 9d Gender: Male Location: adelaide hills- 'race air' central Posted 19/01/13 02:00 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 02:00 AM I dont care about if its cheating really... just the health dangers associated with it...... I love you pazzo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adie Not pregnant Donating Members 2,238 Member For: 12y 11m 18d Gender: Female Location: Melbourne Posted 19/01/13 02:03 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 02:03 AM I was just trying to make a joke about not wanting his pen*s to shrink...guess I was too subtle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 7m Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 19/01/13 02:18 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 02:18 AM From what I've read he's got a bit spare he could afford to lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick d Donating Members 1,594 Member For: 14y 4m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 19/01/13 02:23 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 02:23 AM ^^^Now totally off-topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Eyes flame magnet Gold Donating Members 5,674 Member For: 16y 6m 9d Gender: Male Location: adelaide hills- 'race air' central Posted 19/01/13 02:37 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 02:37 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVT Formerly EGOBFXR6 Donating Members 1,111 Member For: 16y 9m 21d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 19/01/13 08:20 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 08:20 AM (edited) I wasn't hating on anyone. On the contrary where I studied my double degree I was taught to be objective and it's my right not to agreed with everything I'm told. Even "EVEN" if stiflr was able to put on a lean 20kgs of muscle in 14 months "naturally", which if it is true he should be on an Olympia stage, 99% of people shouldn't expect to get anywhere near the same results. I would say 5kgs of lean muscle naturally per year would be the upper limit and that's if you tick all the boxes (diet, rest, training). I wasn't being smart about asking for a pic either. I didn't think this was unreasonable especially for someone who's been in a competition as I would think they would have many. If you think I'm just going to take someone's word after making such a claim then you need to re-read your own advice. PS I have a masters too - not in health but it teaches you research skills, so take that on board if you plan on doing one. I do like your point though about these forums and how "some" people blindly seek advice from them because they're not able to tell the difference (not speaking about stiflr). It's funny how the guys with educated backgrounds or years of experience (or both) get overlooked in favour of the guy with the "tuff avatar", or the witty comment about a new supplement. I mean they would pay big dollars in gyms, etc for the same advice and it's offered on here for free by guys who want to give up their own personal time to help others. I'm going to take a break from this thread now guys. All the best. As Dorian Yates still says -"train hard"...Hey Mad,Honestly, all I wanted to do in this thread was chip in and provide a bit of insight into the world of training, based on my studies and experiences. Unfortunately, there'll always be some people that disagree with your claims or your notions, but sadly that's part of engaging in a topic like this. It is incredibly subjective.I agree with you that huge 'natural' lean muscle gains are very very rare, but who's to say STIFLR isn't one of a select few out there? If he busted his nut at the gym, ate perfectly balanced meals and 'lived' the gym every day who's to say...? He may have, or he may not have. I'm just going by what I hear.As an educated man yourself, I'm sure you'd be familiar with the concept of de-training and it's opposite. If someone has been highly training or conditioned in the past, the body is able to significantly re-condition at a rate far faster than someone who has not been previously conditioned. Once again, I don't know STIFLR from a bar of soap, so I can't confirm or deny what he has said over the internet...I'm not attacking you personally mate... You have to take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not asking you to take what STIFLR said as gospel. It's your right to accept or refute what he has said. And I do know about what's involved in post gradute work - I've been at University since 2004 and have a graduate diploma in Exercise Physiology (Or I will when I graduate mid-year) I've written more research reports than I would have liked...As I said, I'm not out to bust your chops Mad. All I wanted to do what contribute to a great thread and help the members out with what I have gained from my studies and involvment in the industry.Thanks guys,Dan Edited 19/01/13 08:34 AM by NVT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STAINLESS again plz You've changed man.... Donating Members 8,142 Member For: 13y 10m 29d Gender: Male Location: 2 Fuchsia Court, Narre Warren. 3805 Posted 19/01/13 08:35 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 08:35 AM (edited) ^ too long*Edit...Just read it all...like... Edited 19/01/13 08:35 AM by STAINLESS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIFLR Donating Members 572 Member For: 15y 11m 17d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 19/01/13 10:06 AM Share Posted 19/01/13 10:06 AM Like.... I can comfirm NVT, that I have been in pretty good condition for quiet a few years but approx 6 months before I started training for my comp I broke L1 and L5 transverse process on the right and 2,3,4 on the left along with lacerating my spleen. This put me out of action for a while and I lost alot of conditioning. Then when I was able to train again, I changed gyms and started the contest prep. I did bust my nut for about 16months, I was getting trained 3-4 times a week, I didnt go out, didnt drink, never missed meal, had regular massages and chiro adjustments, took multiple supps and always did my recovery.. So if your full on dedicated anything is possible 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick d Donating Members 1,594 Member For: 14y 4m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 19/01/13 10:28 PM Share Posted 19/01/13 10:28 PM Lets all just get back on topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKa Donating Members 4,243 Member For: 18y 3m 5d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, VIC Posted 19/01/13 10:36 PM Share Posted 19/01/13 10:36 PM Did squats yesterday and after watching a guy do it the day before, I realized my firm wasn't spot on.. Did a PB of 90kg and am friggin sore today, so win win.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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