Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 10m 1d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 22/12/12 11:17 AM Share Posted 22/12/12 11:17 AM ^^ Veva is the guru on this. Yes it might be a bit leaner but, the knock properties of this stuff are superior to 98. Bottom line - it won't ping unless the tune is chit to begin with. V8 supercars have lean and rich modes they can run throughout the race. Yes N/A, but me thinks still highly tuned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 10m 1d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 22/12/12 11:21 AM Share Posted 22/12/12 11:21 AM ^^^ agree Al in that the only way to be sure is bottled. Too expensive and impractical for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vevapower Waiting for the 1st N/A 12! Donating Members 2,533 Member For: 17y 1m 1d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 22/12/12 12:18 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 12:18 PM If your car has been tuned on 85% and next time you fill up it's 95% It's going to lean out. I had this problem with eflex. When it was tuned the eflex was 73%. Bout a week later filled up and car was leaning out. Tested the eflex and it was 78%. United seem to have a higher ethanol content but are just as inconsistent as caltex. Sucrogen FTW.Edit. All tuners should put a decent margin in it no matter what % it is considering the inconsistencies found with pump e-70-95%Your car would not lean out with a 5% variance in ethanol content unless the original tune was extremely lean start with.Also how did you check that it was leaning out?Seems everyone needs to relax somewhat as ethanol has so much buffer built into and if your tuner has half an idea he'll (she'll) ensure that 10% variance either on your tune will be fine. More ethanol content you'll just make more power less and vice versa. It's not like we are talking about 98 all of a sudden becoming 91! Remember E85 example (110 - 113) spec stuff has very similar knock values to methanol so most of the time you drop power before you get knock.Thus the awesomeness of this fuel and why it's exciting when it comes avail close enough to you to become a real alternative to 98.Again relax peeps this whole thing will blow over and less than a week.Also there is nothing wrong with eflex either so no need to bash that.Hey if you really want play with some good stuff buy a drum of E98 from powerplus fuels 122 Ron. I did and omg that's where it's at for me now when I visit track or a dyno day.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl's04 Special needs member. Bronze Donating Members 690 Member For: 14y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: gold coast Posted 22/12/12 12:32 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 12:32 PM (edited) We found it was leaning out when we put it back on the dyno.There was probably more than 5% difference as I'd say there was still a few litres of 98 left in the tank when it was first filled with eflex.I'm not a tuner aybe it was just my tuner coming up with excuses.All I know is I was told the eflex was tested to 73% before it was put in the car. Ran fine for the first tank. Then a week or so later filled up again from the same servo and filled 2 jerry cans as was planning to go to Willowbank. Was on my way to FPT to pick up some ET streets when I noticed the car was running rough at WOT so I asked Jamie to run it up on the dyno and AFR's were around 14.5 (were tuned to 11.2-11) tested the eflex in the jerry cans (same as what was put in tank) and it tested at 78%.I am not a tuner and this is my 1st experience with e85 so feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Edited 22/12/12 12:34 PM by BigAl's04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 10m 1d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 22/12/12 12:49 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 12:49 PM (edited) ^^^ I want to embrace the awesomeness Matt, lol.Need coin Edited 22/12/12 12:49 PM by Bomber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Donating Members 1,171 Member For: 15y 5m 23d Posted 22/12/12 02:27 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 02:27 PM Ha ha, you goldy boys seem to be defending your servo like your tune shop... I just made comment on what happen to someone that filled up at that servo... Sorry if you don't like hearing, just tell you facts on what happened.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,331 Member For: 19y 5m 17d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 22/12/12 02:30 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 02:30 PM myservo>yourservo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 10m 1d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 22/12/12 10:30 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 10:30 PM Ha ha, you goldy boys seem to be defending your servo like your tune shop... I just made comment on what happen to someone that filled up at that servo... Sorry if you don't like hearing, just tell you facts on what happened..At what point did the 'shop' need defending and when did I do that Ben? Out of interest to protect their customers, they tested the fuel. Frankly, it would have been better for all if it tested at 40%. The only 'facts' are nobody knows what happened and it was 95% yesterday. Just don't see the point of slamming United for at this stage, an isolated case.Like Veva said - this will blow over in a week. Brissos can go back to whinging and lobbying United about not having pump E85 and goldy customers can fill up again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 10m 15d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 22/12/12 11:32 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 11:32 PM ...and you guys can go back to shooting each other.Sorry, just didn't want to miss out on the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Donating Members 1,171 Member For: 15y 5m 23d Posted 22/12/12 11:38 PM Share Posted 22/12/12 11:38 PM Farking lolI said defending "like" your on tune shop.. You seem very protective about a servo that sells fuel you don't even use?It's a bloody fuel station FFS!! I will not report if I see a large pot hole at Labrador now, farking locals will bring out pitch forks crying BS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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