ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 8m 21d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 12/11/11 08:44 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 08:44 AM Understand our frustration, trying to deal with some people that act like tuners have decided to just stop tuning their boxes, others were given notice that flash 1's would not be supported in the future but they wanted to save money so bought one still and then complained when they could not be tuned, we copped call after call taking up our time, now we will probably go through it again.For 3 years or more, many people have whinged about the wait for ZF tuning, so it appeared it was wanted, obviously the file size of the tune was going to be quite a bit larger and the internal flash process was going to be different, more comprehensive than the first 2 types of flash boxes could handle.SCT may not of even been aware that the file size would not work with a Xcal 2, I would assume that would not of even been in their thought process or testing as the X3 has been the current flash box for possibly 3 years (not sure on that time though).Please do not take this as a defence for SCT, possibly SCT could explain better, this is just my thoughts and experiences, I'm short staffed at work and at this time are booked out until next year with our performance stuff, so do not have time to sit on the phone or forums all day explaining things to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 5m 29d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 12/11/11 08:53 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 08:53 AM Mick .not expecting you to sit on the phone/ forums never suggested you should.Point is SCT would have known about file sizes in developing the ZF software unless they are morons.Even a numpty like me would realize that.The communication/ notice is the issue here. They must have known and were just trying to avoid a shellacking likeXcal 1 blow up.Don't like being taken for a mugOver to Herrod and SCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 8m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 12/11/11 08:56 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 08:56 AM What are the odds? Farkin scum.As if they will, they come on here but never explain themselves.And as for not big enough? 8 gig usb's are like 20 bux the technology is not expensive, that's a cop out.Wonder how long till the X3's stop working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 8m 21d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 12/11/11 08:57 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 08:57 AM (edited) Over to Herrod and SCTyep, not my place to discuss their business, I've allready made assumptions re the file size bit, that may not be the case at all ???? Edited 12/11/11 08:58 AM by ratter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Donating Members 1,171 Member For: 15y 5m Posted 12/11/11 09:35 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 09:35 AM So when is someone going to develop open source tuning for the Fords? Have been told it works quite well for the Jap cars.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stazza_Brendan Donating Members 686 Member For: 15y 4m 6d Gender: Male Location: Mackay QLD Posted 12/11/11 11:02 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 11:02 AM Surely they can still work with the x2. It has for how long already? Adapt the software to realise its flashing a tune for an x2 box and only write engine tune data.X1 gone, X2 gone, most of us im guessing have an X3 box and are wondering if we are next?Even with their reasons SCT has been on this forum multiple times but doesnt post about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuckSqueezeBangBlow ʎǝʞuoɯ ɹoıuǝs Donating Members 1,808 Member For: 16y 2m 1d Gender: Male Posted 12/11/11 11:40 AM Share Posted 12/11/11 11:40 AM Adapt the software to realise its flashing a tune for an x2 box and only write engine tune data.that would be easy to do, but SCT are obviously way too greedy and don't care about customers to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Donating Members 1,171 Member For: 15y 5m Posted 12/11/11 06:53 PM Share Posted 12/11/11 06:53 PM I understand and except the business case of needing the xcal3 if you want the ZF tune, however telling people that they can no longer use their current device for further use is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 23d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 12/11/11 10:19 PM Share Posted 12/11/11 10:19 PM Even with their reasons SCT has been on this forum multiple times but doesnt post about the subject.Just to clarify, the user "SCT" is registered to Herrod. They are essentially a protected species elsewhere in forum world, so a bit of backlash on here would hardly even matter to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 13/11/11 08:15 AM Share Posted 13/11/11 08:15 AM There is very big murmurs from some qtrs to have ECU/ECM's made unalterable. Cars, bikes and trucks. And these unalterable ecu's will be data logging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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