Battlefield 3

[Gasman]

Win7 is easy to get if you know where to look

[freeze_dk]

these internals any good shy?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/INTEL-CORE-i7-2600-QUAD-GAMING-DESKTOP-SYSTEM-COMPUTER-PC-8GB-DDR3-RAM-1TB-HDD-/150682241885?pt=AU_comp_dekstop&hash=item23155c8b5d55c8b5d

[Headsex]

its a ball all in one motherboard... ie video onboard

Keep away from that sh*t.. You dont want a motherboard with video on board!

THen you want to put a video card in... You want to at least equip a Nvidia GTX560ti

[PookeyMaster]

Mate, if you can afford it, I would recommand the 2011 socket any day of the week... quick reason why i7-9xx cpu's.. Triple channel ram (ram configuration on board is in groups of 3) i7-2xxx cpu's.. Double channel ram (ram configuration on board is in groups of 2, and max of 4 slots) i7-3xxx cpus (the new 2011 socket). Quad channel ram (ram configuration is in groups of 4, and typical motherboards I've seen have 8 sockets!) As you can see, the i7-2xxx lost our on the memory bandwidth somewhat in comparison. The new 2011 socket utilizes ram on how it should have in the i7-2xxx processors.

The reason i7-2xxx only uses dual channel is because it is the mainstream Z68 chipset and Intel doesn't want to piss off its "enthusiast" crowd by making the mainstream product more powerful. X58 was the previous performance platform and X79 is the new enthusiast performance platform and alot of people spend huge dollars on Intel for these platforms. Notice that all performance oriented parts use 'X' (X58, X79, i7-990X, i7-3360X, etc.). The next chipset will be a mainstream product and likely have triple channel ram and be faster than X58 but still deliberately slower than X79. As many people say, the i7-2XXX processors are superior to the i7-9XX processors clock-for-clock but they are held back by less memory channels, slower processor speeds, less GFX card lanes, etc. which makes X58 still look like the superior product.

In my opinion, i7-9xx is far better bang for buck as you would be unable to tell the difference RAM wise with an i7-3xxx and the CPU itself is only ~10-15% faster which most people won't notice. Also, in real life, you are never going to put even 24 GB/s through your processor (that the i7-9XX RAM is capable of) so the i7-9xx should be fine That doesn't mean I don't want some i7-3xxx goodness though...

Continuing on comparisons for freeze_dk,

i7-9xx: Will run two GFX cards at full speed and 3 at slightly reduced speed (but overall still faster than two)

i7-2xxx: Will run one GFX card at full speed and two at reduced speed. Barely any boards will even let you add a third card and if they do, it's at a much slower speed.

i7-3xxx: Will run three GFX cards at full speed and 4 at slightly reduced speed, although at this stage, you will be looking at a $3,500 system if you're running that many cards. Also has support for PCI-e Express 3 when cards become available.

Basically, each GFX card you have can run up to 16 'lanes' of data. Each motherboard has a set amount of 'lanes' to run. So, most i7-9xx boards have 36 or 40 lanes which will run two cards at full speed and one at half in 16+16+4 or 16+16+8, etc. The difference between 8 and 16 lanes is generally about 10% performance hit though, so you don't need to worry too much (unless you have top end cards like the 580 which can max out the lanes).

Have a look at these for picking a SSD:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21672

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-nand-reliability,3021.html

[freeze_dk]

thanks Dan.. I lost interest in computers about 10 years ago so im not really up to date with whats good anymore.. ill keep looking around.. as said already,, I dont wanna spend a sh*tload on a tower package that's pretty much for games and browsing.. im thinking of just having it in my room anyways connected up to the 40" led tv with wireless keyboard and mouse (because im a lazy *beep* and can play in bed lol)

[Headsex]

Yeah.. They did go backwards for the i7-2xxx series in a number of things..

One thing that gets me is this..

I7-9xx (and 8xx) are the Gen 1 i7's..

I7-2xxx is a different cpu socket, and are Gen 2 i7's

I7-3xxx is a different cpu socket again, But intel refer to these cpu's as Gen2 .. WTF???

I've always based the different generations as different cpu sockets.. given the differences between 9xx and 2xxx, would show a generation change. But oh well..

My next PC build, prob around march next year will likely be i7-3xxx based :D

[PookeyMaster]

Their stupid generations just serve to confuse people, makes it really hard when people say "but the guy in Harvey Norman said they're both Gen 2"...

The only good thing about the new socket is that it will support the next generation of 22nm performance Ivy Bridge processors when they're released (at least this is what Intel are saying at the moment but they've done people over in the past).

I want to get X79 as well, but I'm kind of put off by the prices of even 3930K's and motherboards. I guess it's like the X58 platform; I ended up getting my i7-950 for less than what the i7-920 was 6 months after release. The other thing is HDD's. I got my most recent WD 1 TB for ~$109 in 2010 and they're now about $180 and climbing all because of the tsunami's and flooding...

[STAINLESS again plz]

anyone played bf3?

[Shyfrd]

whos stainless??

anyone played saints row 3? mashin kents with a massive d!ldo haha

fs the run? whats that like, might go get it depending what I read on the net about it..

Edited 25/11/11 06:46 AM by Shyfrd

[bossmang]

my god you guys are nuts with your pc's

and headsexy that set up is farkn wicked.

yes im jealous