Garrettba03 Member 78 Member For: 13y 11m 23d Gender: Male Location: Sydney West Posted 19/09/11 03:43 PM Share Posted 19/09/11 03:43 PM (edited) Im pretty sure I just came across a problem with the std intercooler our cars come with.I was talking to a mate outside of work warming the car up we talked a bit longer (1am about 18 degress air temp)...car was idling for about 10 minutes. After that I drove through a car park about 200 metres, got out at traffic lights, gave the car a bootfull in first gear...only to the speed limit of course and...I had no power!Felt worse than stock.Went on a freeway on ramp about 1km later and all power back car was pulling great.Weird.All I can think of is intercooler heatsoak from the radiator...its the only variable. I have never idled so long then planted the car. Im changing the intercooler in the next few weeks (or a bit more) but now this has me thinking...is this common with all bar and plate coolers and why plazmaman keep talking about fast recovery? I understand the std one heatsoaks from compressed air heat but...I didnt know it heat soaked from idling - radiator heat then take soooo long to come down to temp...On a cool day?I mean if im at the drags...its a hot day...and the thing heatsoaks...im likely to rip it off the front of the car on the spot and throw it at something! Not to mention hot days stuck in traffic which is a common thing - want a good safety margin. I know most people arent that picky but Im pretty sure this is what it was, anyone else have any experience with this? Edited 19/09/11 03:45 PM by Garrettba03 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 17y 2m 19d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 20/09/11 05:55 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 05:55 AM Add more boost and the stock cooler struggtles more. Its definitely worth upgrading the stock cooler when you can. When I had the stock cooler on a hot day it felt useless. It still ran 12.9 after an hour and half drive on a 30 degree day. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,332 Member For: 19y 8m 16d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 20/09/11 06:11 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 06:11 AM If the car was idling from cold @ 18deg ambient for 10mins, your lack of power wasnt caused by heatsoak. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 18y 13d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 20/09/11 06:38 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 06:38 AM Something sounds a miss. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrettba03 Member 78 Member For: 13y 11m 23d Gender: Male Location: Sydney West Posted 20/09/11 07:19 AM Author Share Posted 20/09/11 07:19 AM Mmm...sounds like I gotta speak to my tuner. Felt delayed in throttle and big loss of power...felt to me the same as when you give the car 4 or 5 hits and power drops off Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroozin Menace Donating Members 1,990 Member For: 14y 1m 17d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 20/09/11 10:05 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 10:05 AM My cold side piping isn't so cold either when I've been idling for similar time. I dont think that is a problem seems logical for it to heat up when there is no air movement over the cooler for over 10mins being fed from a hot turbo + half the cold side piping is in a fairly warm/hot engine bay Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stazza_Brendan Donating Members 686 Member For: 15y 7m 28d Gender: Male Location: Mackay QLD Posted 20/09/11 10:16 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 10:16 AM read the intake air temps from computer to see how much heat these things pick up sitting in traffic. one moving it drops pretty quick. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 10m 7d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 20/09/11 10:18 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 10:18 AM Yeah it'll warm up a bit but if you are idling the turbo won't be feeding pressurized air into the engine either. A by product of pressurization is it creates heat. Hence the need for the intercooler.. The heat you feel on the cold side pipes while it isn't 'cold' it's a damn side colder then it would be if there was pressurized air flowing through it with no cooler attached. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroozin Menace Donating Members 1,990 Member For: 14y 1m 17d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 20/09/11 10:48 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 10:48 AM Just out of curiosity how are you seeing your iat on your computer? are you using the xcal3 somehow? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Resident idiot. Donating Members 2,068 Member For: 14y 8m 19d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 20/09/11 11:34 AM Share Posted 20/09/11 11:34 AM The xcal 3 can monitor inlet temps. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/76995-idle-intercooler-heatsoak/#findComment-1142716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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