mickq Member 740 Member For: 21y 9m 28d Posted 19/12/03 11:34 AM Share Posted 19/12/03 11:34 AM How confusing is the tranction control ?I don't understand why it's not the other way around.If it's blinking, then Tranction Control is Active, then why shouldnt it be if light is on then Traction Control is switched 'on'Usually if you switch something on then you should be able to see that it is so.... as in electrical appliances, light switches etc.... :rollingred:Maybe Ford do a recall , or do it ourselves ?Daniel Actually what they have done is perfectly correct.Most car manufacturers have followed aircraft manufacturers with their "dark cockpit" logic. They did lots of research into displays, human behaviour etc, and concluded that the best and most safe way is to have things turned off when all is well.That way when something IS wrong and something turns on, its easy to see and you notice it pretty much right away.So in short, the "normal" state should be off, and the "abnormal" state should involve the light turning on. You are simply more likely to notice it that way.Its much more important for a driver to know if the TC is turned off than on. Too late when you are losing control because you pulled a manoever expecting TC to kick in and then think "gee, that light is missing...."Would you also prefer that when you have oil in your car the oil pressure light is on, and when all the oil has leaked out, the oil pressure light turns off, as there is no more oil pressure?What about windscreen washer water levels? Or the alternator? Or fuel levels? Would you like all those lights on the whole time, and only one silently vanishing to indicate that there is a problem as something is missing?I dont think so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scootre Guests Posted 19/12/03 09:30 PM Share Posted 19/12/03 09:30 PM Actually what they have done is perfectly correct.Most car manufacturers have followed aircraft manufacturers with their "dark cockpit" logic. They did lots of research into displays, human behaviour etc, and concluded that the best and most safe way is to have things turned off when all is well.That way when something IS wrong and something turns on, its easy to see and you notice it pretty much right away.The TC light seemed right to me. I read it as the light showing a spinning wheel so therefore TC was off.But the dark cockpit idea does have an inherent flaw: what if the globe is broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teebone Member 183 Member For: 21y 3m 17d Location: South of Melbourne, near the sea Posted 19/12/03 10:24 PM Share Posted 19/12/03 10:24 PM whilst I was doing the deal for the T, the sales chap told me about a potential purchaser who had been given the keys to a manual and left on his own to convince himself (nice dealer!). On return, they knew he had been thrashing the living daylights out of the thing as he complained that there must have been something wrong with the turbocharger as the orange light kept flashing!!! - he thought the TC warning light was a turbo warning light :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT TURBO Member 1,128 Member For: 21y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Darwin NT Posted 20/12/03 02:38 AM Share Posted 20/12/03 02:38 AM Actually what they have done is perfectly correct.Most car manufacturers have followed aircraft manufacturers with their "dark cockpit" logic. They did lots of research into displays, human behaviour etc, and concluded that the best and most safe way is to have things turned off when all is well.That way when something IS wrong and something turns on, its easy to see and you notice it pretty much right away.The TC light seemed right to me. I read it as the light showing a spinning wheel so therefore TC was off.But the dark cockpit idea does have an inherent flaw: what if the globe is broken? that's why all globes light up on initial ignition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 21y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 20/12/03 03:06 AM Share Posted 20/12/03 03:06 AM Geez,how hard is to lean forward and push in a button Trevor has the right idea,pre-program it into your brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEN 24T Gandalf the Grey, Maiar of Manwë and Varda, Team HgAg/Sneaky Member 7,371 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: The Shire, Middle Earth Posted 20/12/03 03:15 AM Share Posted 20/12/03 03:15 AM Geez,how hard is to lean forward and push in a button Trevor has the right idea,pre-program it into your brainMy brain is programmed now, 3 steps to startup:1) Ignition on (Cardie off )2) Lights on (Handbrake out )3) TC off (Boner on ) :auto: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God666 Complete Bastard Donating Members 1,123 Member For: 21y 2m 15d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 20/12/03 04:04 AM Share Posted 20/12/03 04:04 AM And isn't it a fantastic spot for the TC and foglight buttons. I don't know why they bothered to label the buttons, it isn't as if you can see them or anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scootre Guests Posted 20/12/03 06:29 AM Share Posted 20/12/03 06:29 AM that's why all globes light up on initial ignition.I was talking about a cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickq Member 740 Member For: 21y 9m 28d Posted 20/12/03 10:24 AM Share Posted 20/12/03 10:24 AM that's why all globes light up on initial ignition.I was talking about a cockpit. Cockpits (at least advanced ones) have self-test buttons that light up everything when pushed.They also often have 2 bulbs/LED's in important warning lights.And thirdly, they usually have a Master Caution Light. A big thing you cant miss. It will turn on when there is a problem, so you know to check everything out in case you missed something. (Like that mountain right in front of you....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasQLD Lifetime Members 1,197 Member For: 22y 2m 14d Gender: Male Location: Albany Creek QLD Posted 21/12/03 03:49 AM Share Posted 21/12/03 03:49 AM The button was programmed by the same guy who used to work at Microsoft.He was the guy who set XP to shut down by selecting START then Turn off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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