01txr Member 861 Member For: 18y 16d Gender: Male Location: QLD Posted 16/08/11 02:25 PM Share Posted 16/08/11 02:25 PM Looks like the outer gear shattered, causing the housing to fracture, the shrapnel from the the pump probably caused the timing chain to jam and snap. Don't quote me but I think there is enough clearance in the valves to piston for them not to contact, so valves maybe still ok, cam gear and cams probably damaged, maybe some damage to cam bearing surface head. Maybe metal throughout oil galleries and bearings. Sorry to hear this happen, I'm glad I have included a billet set of oil pump gears in my engine build. Give everyone a run down of what further damage you do find so people can see the full importance of the billet gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09sr5 Member 56 Member For: 14y 4m 9d Posted 16/08/11 09:25 PM Author Share Posted 16/08/11 09:25 PM Ok so definitely new valves needed on #6 along with pistons ( they were worst) 3 others have light marks. Swarf found in the oil holes on the crank on 4 cylinders, stripped the cam chain drive sprocket, broke the crank angle wheel, chain guides broken.I couldn't believe the time it took for metal swarf to reach big ends, very quick indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09sr5 Member 56 Member For: 14y 4m 9d Posted 16/08/11 09:49 PM Author Share Posted 16/08/11 09:49 PM It appears the outer ring broke which then broke the housing. Car had been warmed to running temp. The rapid acceleration or traction control cutting in may have caused it? Who knows. I'm leaning towards the rapid rise in revs being the main cause. I usually run 5w-30 oil - the car had been serviced at ford, I dont know what oil they used but it must have been a bit heavier as it ran more pressure- maybe that was a contributing factor.And the lack if expletives, I was more annoyed about not being able to go out that night! Had to push the car home ( luckily it was on a slight decline and it pretty much rolled backward all the way.)340 was becoming a bit boring anyway. It's pretty much nailed every car that's tried to run it people love the car for it's quietness refinent, it's sedate nature cruising, fuel economy while cruising and once the go pedel that little moment before all hell unleashes.500 is my new target, it's sort of like this, when you stall a manual car at the lights, you drop the clutch to save face, I'm building it even better than before to save face haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenier Donating Members 1,736 Member For: 15y 12d Gender: Male Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posted 17/08/11 05:31 AM Share Posted 17/08/11 05:31 AM that's a bugger, pretty awesome to catch it on film. And that heavier oil pressure could of caused the issue especially as when the revs climbs it only gets high in pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroozin Menace Donating Members 1,990 Member For: 13y 9m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 17/08/11 05:50 AM Share Posted 17/08/11 05:50 AM is it def. a motor out jobby to do the oil pump upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze_dk I am dissatisfied with my current employment situation Donating Members 8,610 Member For: 18y 4m 2d Gender: Male Posted 17/08/11 06:35 AM Share Posted 17/08/11 06:35 AM Not really.. You can take out the radiator and most front to do it,, still fiddly as you only still have about 200-250mm to play with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6turbo Member 172 Member For: 18y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 17/08/11 01:11 PM Share Posted 17/08/11 01:11 PM Mine let go at about 340kw as well. Apart from the pump and a chain guide there was no other damage, just unlucky for you I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risking Member 7 Member For: 13y 8m 29d Posted 17/08/11 08:50 PM Share Posted 17/08/11 08:50 PM I did an oil pump in an FG F6 yesterday using an atomic pump.It was a rocker cover, timing case, front sub frame and sump off job. Took just under a day to complete from tow truck to driving out.Owner got lucky and it broke after he was abusing the engine so he had time to shut it down and save the thing, engine was idling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenier Donating Members 1,736 Member For: 15y 12d Gender: Male Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posted 18/08/11 12:29 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 12:29 AM Was it mainly an issue on the BAs or is it weak throughout the whole range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mes83 Member 51 Member For: 17y 1m 1d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 18/08/11 12:46 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 12:46 AM I have a BF2 XR6T ute running 390rwkw for approximately 3 years and it went into Elite on tuesday to get an atomic oil pump put in. Got the call timing chain tensioner was in pieces in the sump, so im pretty lucky it didnt end in disaster as I was at QR on sunday racing around the track. Ended up doing atomic oil pump, timing chain, timing chain tensioner, hardend crankshaft sprocket and harmonic balancer. So it seems all models are subject to failure, its just a matter of time. My ute has done 110000kms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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