Full Monty Member 513 Member For: 17y 4m 26d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 18/08/11 02:00 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 02:00 AM Ezz your missing the point, I understand that ZF's werent being tuned up until now, but every BA and BF1 was getting their transmission parameters set as part of a custom tune. Then SCT axed teh Xcal 1 boxes, forcing me to fork out $500 for a Xcal 3, which is of no benefit to me as a BA owner. But the sweetener on the deal was that, "ohh when / if you upgrade to a BF2 or FG, we can then tune your transmission...they didn't mention that would be an additional $500. fkn unethical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maymoon72 Member 4 Member For: 13y 3m 12d Posted 18/08/11 05:00 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 05:00 AM I just got mine done today. I didnt really have much choice, my box was flaring thru the gears when I accelerated hard.Changing the torque tags didn't help and I have been waiting for the zf tune for months. Any way I can say the tune has changed the way the car drives shifts up and down are near instant. Acceleration is so much better and the flaring in and out of gears has gone. My fg xr6 would never chirp in to 3rd now it does easily. If your after more performance I dont think you would be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 16y 11m 25d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 18/08/11 05:09 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 05:09 AM Thanks for posting your real world experience with a tuned ZF! The more the merrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezz Member 28 Member For: 14y 2m 21d Gender: Male Location: Caroline Springs Posted 18/08/11 07:13 AM Author Share Posted 18/08/11 07:13 AM Ezz your missing the point, I understand that ZF's werent being tuned up until now, but every BA and BF1 was getting their transmission parameters set as part of a custom tune. Then SCT axed teh Xcal 1 boxes, forcing me to fork out $500 for a Xcal 3, which is of no benefit to me as a BA owner. But the sweetener on the deal was that, "ohh when / if you upgrade to a BF2 or FG, we can then tune your transmission...they didn't mention that would be an additional $500. fkn unethical.I do understand your point and yes in context it has merit. However, it has nothing to do with the ZF tune that is now available, so I fail to see why you’re complaining when you should be celebrating?New software requires new hardware sometimes. The Xcal 1 was canned yes, sucks totally for anyone who purchased it. But you need to know why that happened... Sometime approximately in 2008/09 the USA switched of all SCT tuners here in Australia over an alleged contract breach from the first distributor, having thousands of customers & over 65 tune shops Australia wide left in the dark. Rob Herrod ''Herrod Motorsport'' has now taken the reins & rebuilt what was a total collapse of the SCT Ford tuning industry.In 2010, Rob Herrod true to his promise has provided tuners, Australia wide with an unparallel service & open table relationship with SCT in the USA which in turn have provided us ''the tuners'' with up to date software which is also why the x1 had to go... due to the constant challenge & the demands of our Ford enthusiasts with the introduction of the ZF 6 speed auto, it has SCT hard at work in developing the latest upgrades once again. Hence, the X3 was developed.It wasn't Rob Herrod's fault and he did give a special offer to all Xcal1 owners. Herrod Motorsport offered for 90 days only, from the 16th June 2010, to the end user a $200.00 factory rebate on the purchase of a new X3 tuning device.Conditions of the rebate are that it must be returned to Herrod Motorsport unlocked and be accompanied by a copy of invoice from the Supplier/Tuner from which the new X3 unit was purchased.I know what you’re saying and I agree with your disappointment, however this shouldn’t relate to the ZF Tune and its costing. It’s a completely separate topic. The situation relating to the Xcal 1 and SCT should be left in the past as much as it was wrong and totally sucks, lets move on yeah?You can’t expect a tuner to spend a day or two tuning your ZF Gearbox, testing it etc and cost you nothing? Regardless of the points discussed the benefits with this new tuning software is so worth it for ZF gearbox owners. Let’s let the people who have had it done have their say regarding its value for results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glouva1 Donating Members 654 Member For: 13y 4m 14d Gender: Male Location: Surrey Hills, Melbourne Posted 18/08/11 08:47 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 08:47 AM Awesome! Can't wait to get mine done. I'll take .2 advantage over the 1/4 right now if that's what the ZF tune does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 6m 7d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 18/08/11 08:55 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 08:55 AM (edited) I'll find out next week. Won't be paying $500. In a year, once generic files have been created, I suspect it will be half that - or less.forget a year, have done a deal with my tuner. Market will determine price. All said, the thing can't vary that much car to car - unlike an engine tune. Tuners will create generic files based on different applications and that will probably be good enough for 90% of vehicles. IMO, only animals with 350+ will perhaps require a full custom. Edited 18/08/11 08:57 AM by HSV R GAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barra Donating Members 467 Member For: 16y 4d Gender: Male Location: Toowoomba Posted 18/08/11 09:13 AM Share Posted 18/08/11 09:13 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezz Member 28 Member For: 14y 2m 21d Gender: Male Location: Caroline Springs Posted 18/08/11 09:54 AM Author Share Posted 18/08/11 09:54 AM forget a year, have done a deal with my tuner. Market will determine price. All said, the thing can't vary that much car to car - unlike an engine tune. Tuners will create generic files based on different applications and that will probably be good enough for 90% of vehicles. IMO, only animals with 350+ will perhaps require a full custom.Agree!Yeah... me being one of those animals too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 6m 7d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 21/08/11 06:35 AM Share Posted 21/08/11 06:35 AM I'm a noob when it comes to B series but from what I understand they don't have torque reduction. I'm wondering if the tunes that are being done on FG therefore also have the 'fart' removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 1m 26d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 21/08/11 06:55 AM Share Posted 21/08/11 06:55 AM Bf's can be Fart enabled, all B series have shift tourqe reduction but unless you specifically trying to preserve the box or want the fart there not much point bringing it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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