Zeke zeke Member 792 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Location: Adelaide Posted 23/11/03 11:39 AM Share Posted 23/11/03 11:39 AM CuriousHaving driven on single-lane "highways" for 37 years, I'm well aware of the need for a safety margin and always try to allow for something going wrong.BUT, that doesn't mean that it's acceptable for a new car to have a propensity to lose all power totally unexpectedly due to some computer software deciding to turn off the gas because it thinks there might be a problem! I'd like to be able to over-ride that decision at least until I've passed the other vehicle and got back to the left dside of the road! I'd feel better if I knew the problem was being addressed with the urgency it seems to warrant.Even with a "safety margin," loss of all power while overtaking would at best be scary and at worst, tragic. And I didn't buy a T with the intention of pretending I was in a Corolla when deciding when and where to overtake!zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 24/11/03 12:49 AM Share Posted 24/11/03 12:49 AM Its never done it to me,but geeez Id be p!ssed off(or probably dead)if it did.As a group maby we should get an overide opion looked in to by Ford,this is to serious to let lie and do nothing about.vik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Member 1,869 Member For: 21y 8m 3d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 24/11/03 01:20 AM Share Posted 24/11/03 01:20 AM I've had the problem if you happen to miss the start on the first turn of the key the car is struggling to kick over the next attempt. The car also sometimes at the lights drops revs like it's going to stall but then seems to pick back up. I haven't had any dangerous loss of power while driving yet thankfully. My car has the latest program in the ecu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dawsonsg Guests Posted 24/11/03 10:21 AM Share Posted 24/11/03 10:21 AM Hi Guys,Not wanting to sound like an idiot but what are the clips/clamps you are all talking about?Craig when you talk about a cough and a clean do you mean a service type thing at Ford. I didn't mention the starting thing but it does start really rough. In fact I was telling some guys at work how great my VT Late model camira starts and how crap the turbo starts. For a new car you would expect better.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronmihe Upstanding Member Member 759 Member For: 21y 7m 4d Location: Canberra - ACT Posted 24/11/03 10:58 AM Share Posted 24/11/03 10:58 AM I've had a couple of mornings where the car just goes 'dead' sort of 50m from the driveway, coughs, and then picks up and runs fine. It's almost like it needs more choke Ofcourse I'm forgiving this as the Clio Sport was _always_ like that except whent he French car gods had had a good night causing trouble elsewhere.What Kitty and I have found in the 4500km we've done is that it's possible to 'outsmart' the gearbox, something that happens with most adaptive boxes. But enginewise all good.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saleen Big Gun Donating Members 4,170 Member For: 22y 5m 29d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 24/11/03 11:11 AM Share Posted 24/11/03 11:11 AM My car occasionally goes into a low idle, near stall. usually while slipping into reverse. Ive had the car stall twice(durign bloody indy) Both times were in hot weather, long idle with the airconditioning on. Could be coincidental, maybe not. Will get it looked at next service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR6T4ME Member 186 Member For: 21y 7m 19d Location: Melbourne Posted 24/11/03 02:14 PM Share Posted 24/11/03 02:14 PM vik351 said: As a group maby we should get an overide opion looked in to by Ford,this is to serious to let lie and do nothing about.vik Yep I agree vik, I think we should ask Fordtech for his advice here.It first happened to me when I was giving the T a boot out of a corner, my fuel was sitting on 40km before empty. Then it went into limp mode, I could not get past 40kms per/hr until I pulled into a servo and gave her some juice. (Ken, not what you think ). Fired the T up and it was fine. Another time I planted it one morning on the way to work from standstill and once I hit 2nd gear - limp mode. I pulled over switched the ignition off, restarted and off I went. Again on the weekend I took a friend for a drive and in 3rd hitting 5-6000rpms it did it again. Very embarassing. I may have to visit the dealer before my 3000km service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabbit Guests Posted 24/11/03 10:30 PM Share Posted 24/11/03 10:30 PM Saleen1,I've had the same thing with my XR6 n/a. Stalling/shuddering in stop/start traffic, when stopping abruptly and hot weather makes it worse. Ford has been trying to fix it for 6mths. Trying again tomorrow. So far they've replaced the throttle body and the PCM, which has made it better, but it's still there. Pls let me know if you have any luck getting it sorted.rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Member 504 Member For: 21y 5m 6d Location: sun, beach and plenty of T T's Posted 24/11/03 10:45 PM Share Posted 24/11/03 10:45 PM Zeke said: CuriousHaving driven on single-lane "highways" for 37 years, I'm well aware of the need for a safety margin and always try to allow for something going wrong.BUT, that doesn't mean that it's acceptable for a new car to have a propensity to lose all power totally unexpectedly due to some computer software deciding to turn off the gas because it thinks there might be a problem! I'd like to be able to over-ride that decision at least until I've passed the other vehicle and got back to the left dside of the road! I'd feel better if I knew the problem was being addressed with the urgency it seems to warrant.Even with a "safety margin," loss of all power while overtaking would at best be scary and at worst, tragic. And I didn't buy a T with the intention of pretending I was in a Corolla when deciding when and where to overtake!zeke I agree that a car should not fail when there is no reason for it too. However in the "T" there is no real need for a full throttle overtake everytime.Just remember even when overtaking your not supposed to exceed the speed limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 4m 13d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 27/11/03 04:31 AM Share Posted 27/11/03 04:31 AM Hey Guys, just got my car back today from first service, had the same problem of car badly misfiring or cuuting out when putting the boot in. The service guy said that they apparently have a upgraded software programme which they load onto the car's computer Anyway I thought he was talking crap, when In picked up the car he said it should feel a little different and the problem should have gone, but the ususal comment 'keep an eye on it' Anyway so far so good and it does feel slightly more responsive.Just out of interest how many klm's are people getting out of a tank hwy / city??? He said this should also improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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