Gulf Western Syntrans

[Spoony]

I'm getting a 20L drum of the Gulf Western SynTrans tomorrow, gets hooked up and flushed through/in on Monday. Here's hoping it helps with my 3rd-4th shift issue.

From what Gulf Western has said the aditivies pack (friction modifiers etc??) are somewhat important with these boxes, my hope is the Nulon stuff is totally lacking. Hence why my first change still had 50% old factory fluid and the issue didn't show up, now its fair majority Nulon stuff perhaps there is too little of the properties needed to work/have an effect. Fingers crossed. lol

[1600dave]

If you dont mind me asking, where'd ya pick it up from, and how much?

Thanks,

Dave

[Spoony]

Picking it up this arvo from http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/c-m-and-t-quality-products/arundel, he was on the road when I rang but around $150 or so for 20L. I thought wasn't bad at all. The other contact Gulf Western gave me was Autobarn, at the bargin price of $370. bwahahah, I so hate Autobarn

Just email Gulf, Andrew's really helpful, he'll give you some local options to try.

[Spoony]

Figured I'd update this thread, now and again after it's been flushed. $160 cash, 20L which is pretty good for full syth DX VI grade!

I'm pretty sure Gulf are quite confident in their fluid in the Falcoon ZF6 box based on the pic I've attached lol. The supplier also showed me a letter Gulf has sent out to distributors identifying its suitablity in these boxes.

Possibly they've seen a market oportunity and jumped at it with right product, where other manufactures are stuck with their same fluids from the 90's? lol

[helbz]

Nice, Let us know how it is when you service the box. If all goes well I will definately be getting this stuff, great price !

[GinjaNinja]

Lets keep a constant update on this for the next 6-12 months, would like to see how this oil perform especially with a modified 6T

Time will tell all

[Spoony]

I got 20L flushed through using a flush machine on Monday. The box drives OK, shifts fine and smooth under normal driving or faster driving.

I've given it a a few days of normal driving now and my 3-4th gear issue slipping still persists. I did think it was a long shot as I'm not convinced the issue was caused by fluid. Especially when I have box shops saying they use the Nulon stuff in many ZF's, still do and have no issue.

"In gear" 4th there is no issue now matter how I load it, its only the shift which feels totally different to all other gears (including 4th to 5th or 5th 6th on power). It's almost like the action of engagment is too weak, perhaps some sort of valve issue etc.

Mick from pitlane has sent me a modified tune with the torque tags back to standard to hopefully make the shifting less harsh on the box, loaded it this morning so will see if it helps. I don't think so. Might be up for a new 4th gear clutch pack or whatever. hmmm.

Anyways my brother is looking at flushing his 70,000km BF F6 with the Gulf Western product also, this has no issues so will give a better base to work from.

[helbz]

Sweet as, keep us posted Spoony

[1600dave]

I'm getting mine done soon (next week maybe) just waiting on a gulf western stockist to start trading (their first delivery is due monday).

My car is stock at the moment, 07 BF2 120k, just want the trans serviced before I start tinkering with it.

[Spoony]

Another update. Flashed the updated tune with standard torque tag settings. It shifts quite different on power, from before. Best way to describe is previously felt like flat shifting a manual car, now it shifts like one would in a manual if they wanted the gbox to last more than a few weeks haha.

It's hard to test repeatedly and keep ones licence (as 3-4th shift is fairly fast speed), but the box seems OK now, ie doesn't seem to slip on shift.

Perhaps car is just making to much torque to 'flatshift' at high speed/load. Maybe it's been slipping slightly for a while and gotten worse (burnt out the clutch packs a bit? glazed? something? going harder in the old weather?, who knows.

I'd say the car would be marginally slower but seeing/feeling the difference first hand at how brutal changing the torque tags can be on the box vs the factory settings in the part of a tune, for longevity I'd recommend one to question about their tune having this section of the tune left standard.

1600Dave, haha 120k was when I got my 07 BFii............ & started tinkering too. 140k on it now.

Edited 01/07/11 02:01 PM by Spoony