fgxod Member 214 Member For: 13y 7m 13d Posted 24/05/11 07:01 AM Author Share Posted 24/05/11 07:01 AM Maybe you should keep your crap ass advice and speak up if have helpful info. You don't just lower your car for looks retard but sorry ofcourse a retard would only think it's fully sick to lower your car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgxod Member 214 Member For: 13y 7m 13d Posted 24/05/11 10:53 AM Author Share Posted 24/05/11 10:53 AM maybe dont be a poser and return your ute to stock hieght so it isnt fully sic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonadman2 Member 140 Member For: 18y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: Perth - WA Posted 25/05/11 06:30 AM Share Posted 25/05/11 06:30 AM Why else would you lower your car? To reduce the roll centre? How would lowering your roll centre improve a street car? Generally the OEM ride height is the optimum height for the suspension geometry, moving away from these parameters will result in deteriorated performance. The problem is, when most people lower their vehicles, they install a stiffer spring/shock setup and think it is handling 'better.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgxod Member 214 Member For: 13y 7m 13d Posted 25/05/11 09:09 AM Author Share Posted 25/05/11 09:09 AM You are wrong in many ways.Generally oem ride Hight in a ford is to suit our roads and regulation. The suspension in fords are by far suited for performance expecialy in a ute. Cars like m3 m5, amg, gtrs, gt3 have a high end "oem" suspension setup that is exceptional for the street and with minor tweaks ultimate for the track. Ford oem is no were near to there standard why? Well let's face it it's not were near the asking price. Lowering your car the right way with lowering Springs and Struts or using Coilovers lowers the center of gravity of the vehicle.Turning... When turning the car sticks to the road far better due to stiffer lower suspension reducing body roll and bouncing. When you turning into a curve you feel the vehicle lean the opposite direction. Being lowered reduces this effect.Acceleration... Reduces the body roll from front to back. Stiffer lower suspension provides the vehicle to travel on a more level plane thus providing more evenly distributed weight to provide traction to the wheels.I'm not cutting springs in my vl so next time you think lowering your car is fully sik think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgxod Member 214 Member For: 13y 7m 13d Posted 25/05/11 09:11 AM Author Share Posted 25/05/11 09:11 AM I meant not suited for performance expeicaly in a ute. First paragraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonadman2 Member 140 Member For: 18y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: Perth - WA Posted 26/05/11 12:35 AM Share Posted 26/05/11 12:35 AM Ease up tiger, I didn't say that you cut springs in a VL. But I did say that lowering your car will not improve performance, note that I didn't say that adding stiffer shocks, springs, bushes and swaybars will reduce performance. Anyway heres why:OEM setup, notice how the hub is nice and aligned with the pivot point, and the arc that hub travels in is above and belowthe pivot point.Now look at your typical 'ricer/commodore' setup. Lowered springs and maybe shocks allround. Its an easy spot to see whats going on here and I'm sure you've seen it before.Lastly, we have what you have described as a 'performance' setup. Lowered, stiffer shocks/springs and camber adjustment. Notice now though, that the hub sits higher than the pivot? This is a bad thing, as the amount of travel that you are able to use is lower, and you are no longer rotating around the pivot point, but a point inside the pivot. Any increase in reduced roll centre is negated by poor suspension alignment, so while you might think that the performance is 'better' it really isn't, otherwise Ford (BMW, mercedes, Audi et al) would design the suspension in this manner.If you want improved suspension performance stick with the stock ride height and increase swaybar thickness, spring rates and shock damping and you're onto a winner. If you want better looks, drop your car into the weeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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