Risking Member 7 Member For: 14y 12d Posted 01/05/11 09:16 AM Share Posted 01/05/11 09:16 AM I build and develop race cars for a living it's my business. For years I've been stuffing around with nissans and the RB26 engine.I'm about to embark on a new workshop project.The car is an r32 skyline but I'm throwing the idea around using an xr6 engine.So I'd like to know what if any are the differences in top and bottom ends from base model xr6 na engines to the turbo and f6 range?I'll be rebuilding whatever I buy and doing a dry sump conversion do if I can get away with an na engine I'd rather do that.I am also considering using two 3540's with tial stainless exhaust housings. I will be searching for 380-420kw. What sort of engine work is required for this to be possible? I realize pistons etc but I hear stories about valve springs etc??Any advise people can offer would be greatly appreciated.I'm sure there will be many more questions I have Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stazza_Brendan Donating Members 686 Member For: 15y 7m 2d Gender: Male Location: Mackay QLD Posted 01/05/11 09:53 AM Share Posted 01/05/11 09:53 AM Differences in most models. Rods, pistons and valvesprings the main ones. General rule of thumb is the later the motor the stronger it is.If your going to do a full rebuild with new internals most of that wont matter. FG heads are a bit different but I cant remember if they are better or worse then the B series. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1101830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 17d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 01/05/11 10:04 AM Share Posted 01/05/11 10:04 AM 380-420kw at the flywheel or wheels?You won't need to do much (if anything) to make that sort of power at the flywheel from a BF or later engine. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1101832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 17y 1m 23d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 01/05/11 10:05 AM Share Posted 01/05/11 10:05 AM 420kw won't require a rebuild, especially behind a manual. Buy a fg bottom end, any turbo head and throw some decent valve springs in. throw some oil pump gears on the motor and that's all you need. The fg head with the fg manifold would be the best I don't think it would clear the bonnet. You'll have to go an aftermarket plenum. If you really want to rebuild one, an Na block will do it'll just need oil lines tapped into it. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1101833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risking Member 7 Member For: 14y 12d Posted 01/05/11 10:11 AM Author Share Posted 01/05/11 10:11 AM Thanks so far.I'll be looking for an at the wheels figure. In saying that I want to get a season of racing from the engine so reliability is paramount.Is there any difference in the heads na to turbo? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1101835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6t4life Member 129 Member For: 15y 9m 27d Gender: Male Location: Perth WA Posted 01/05/11 03:44 PM Share Posted 01/05/11 03:44 PM the exhaust valves are stainless steel on the turbos to handle the extra heat, I wouldnt be using a n/a head unless u are doing some porting and new valves which u wont need to do for 420rwkw. if you are doing a full season of racing it might pay to get a built motor as 420 is on the limit of the stock rods Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1101906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Member 1,869 Member For: 21y 9m 7d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 02/05/11 10:19 AM Share Posted 02/05/11 10:19 AM You wont need two turbos either. One should do fine, just make it a good one. T04Z seems popular from reading around here or even a modified factory 3582R.Benny. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1102116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risking Member 7 Member For: 14y 12d Posted 03/05/11 10:46 AM Author Share Posted 03/05/11 10:46 AM I'd planned to change valves, seats, guides etc as normal car preparation. I've heard stories about weak valve springs? Any truth to what I've been told?I'd be changing rods and pistons as part of a rebuild so that's not of great concern.I have a few 3540's with tial stainless steel exhaust housings. I was going to try and utilize them in some way before paying for a new turbo.I own and run the workshop which owns the car so whilst having a reasonable budget I'm also trying to use any existing parts to save costs if possible.Do these engine suffer any oil surge or pump issues?I plan to dry sump the thing as it's again part of the car build I'd always do but curious to know if they have an inherited weakness in the oil system Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1102513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 03/05/11 11:15 AM Share Posted 03/05/11 11:15 AM Squizz over what these guys do...http://www.atomicperformanceproducts.com/698gta_short.html Arguably the best at it. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1102529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 17y 1m 23d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 04/05/11 02:09 AM Share Posted 04/05/11 02:09 AM With a manual you should do the oil pump gears and housing mod for more reliability. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/74600-general-i6-questions/#findComment-1102674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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