Ba Front Brakes

[jj1947]

Hi Everybody I am new to this forum stuff so please dont jump on me if I make a few mistakes while posting this thread, I like a lot of other BA Ford owners am seeking the holy grail on this car and that is if you havn't guessed it is to find a perminent fix for the front brake shudder I have read a lot of posts on how to fix the problem but cant find any posts that say after the fix they used they got a lot of km's from the fix without going to machining or changing disks after a few thousand km it would be nice if I could just wear out (1)one set of brake pads I love this ford a beautiful car to drive I guess that is why I have persuvered with this problem has anybody out there come up with a fix that offers longevety for the front brakes all answers appreciated no morons please.

[Rudiger]

Firstly, welcome JJ and never be scared to ask a question. We will rarely make fun of you. lol

Mate I had a NA BA II and had shudder ALL the time. Put it in for service, they'd machine the disks and 3 weeks later, same thiong.

There are some simple things.

When you stop at the lights dont keep your foot on the brake so hots spots dont appear. But that's just crap. They are porrly designed and you cant escape it.

Everyone here will tell you basicaly the same...get rid of them and put some DBA rotors on. The standard calipers should be ok with some decent pads. I dont use the DBAs myself but everyone raves about them.

Even if you dont go DBAs and just get some replacement non ford rotors, this will more than likely fix it.

Have a hunt around in the brakes section and youll see lots of discussions on brakes and pads and rotors. If your not going to upgrade to Brembos, or APs or PBR-ms like me, then change your rotors.

Oh and by the way, Fords "permanent" fix for mine was to fit pads, so soft, my wheels went black in a day.

Hope this helps.

Edited 20/01/11 01:39 PM by Rudiger

[Worm]

Go DBA... They don't warp... I've never had to machine mine...

Get dba4000 slotted with some decent pads and you won't look back!

[F1PERFORMANCE]

hi - dont use std pads and problem will go away - try EBC red or Bendix ULT - machine discs at same time - Have done track days on std discs never had a problem - 99% of the time its sh*t pads and every 1 will blame the discs

Edited 20/01/11 03:26 PM by F1PERFORMANCE

[jj1947]

Firstly, welcome JJ and never be scared to ask a question. We will rarely make fun of you. lol

Mate I had a NA BA II and had shudder ALL the time. Put it in for service, they'd machine the disks and 3 weeks later, same thiong.

There are some simple things.

When you stop at the lights dont keep your foot on the brake so hots spots dont appear. But that's just crap. They are porrly designed and you cant escape it.

Everyone here will tell you basicaly the same...get rid of them and put some DBA rotors on. The standard calipers should be ok with some decent pads. I dont use the DBAs myself but everyone raves about them.

Even if you dont go DBAs and just get some replacement non ford rotors, this will more than likely fix it.

Have a hunt around in the brakes section and youll see lots of discussions on brakes and pads and rotors. If your not going to upgrade to Brembos, or APs or PBR-ms like me, then change your rotors.

Oh and by the way, Fords "permanent" fix for mine was to fit pads, so soft, my wheels went black in a day.

Hope this helps.

Hi Rudiger.

what I have done so far was to throw away the rotors that were on the car and replace them with a set of new R.D.A rotors and standard R.D.A pads that fix was ok for around 10.000km then shudder returned so I machined the disks and kept the old pads as they were hardly worn and the car at the moment is braking ok but after reading a lot of posts on these brakes I went in search of some slotted and dimpled R.D.A rotors and another set of standard R.D.A pads Which I will put on the car when the shudder returns do you think this will solve the problem I got the dimpled rotors as oposed to drilled as I read in some cases they crack between drilled holes and the dimpled ones dont have that problem.

[Rudiger]

Hi. Havent heard of the dimpled ones. But have heard cross drilled crack but I dont think its common.

Its quite possible that the replacement rotors you got suffered the same fate as the standard ones and as is mentioned, the standard pads are crap.

I would definately try a set of DBA rotors. Match them with the right pads and youll be sweet.

Sounds like you may be a heavy braker like I am. that's alot of problems from rotors. How many ks has the car done?

[MiKa]

hi - dont use std pads and problem will go away - try EBC red or Bendix ULT - machine discs at same time - Have done track days on std discs never had a problem - 99% of the time its sh*t pads and every 1 will blame the discs

I agree..

Last service I changed rotors to DBA's and pads were just normal, I usually use bendix ult, but didnt get the chance to get them from where I normally go in time for the service.. Now its around 10,000kms later and my discs seem to be buggered.. When braking from mostly high speed I get wicked shudder..

I'd go BDa rotors and bendix ultimate pads and you should be fine.

[jj1947]

Hi. Havent heard of the dimpled ones. But have heard cross drilled crack but I dont think its common.

Its quite possible that the replacement rotors you got suffered the same fate as the standard ones and as is mentioned, the standard pads are crap.

I would definately try a set of DBA rotors. Match them with the right pads and youll be sweet.

Sounds like you may be a heavy braker like I am. that's alot of problems from rotors. How many ks has the car done?

Hi again Rudiger.

The car has only done 150.000km and I am the first to jump on people who leave braking till the last moment and then jump on them I would have to discribe me in the scheme of things as a light to moderate brake user so I dont think it is that but what I dont understand is why the BA ford has so much trouble with the front brakes I just sold an old toyota townace van I had since new and it had 780.000km on the clock with the origenal rotors on the front never been machined just changed pads when they wore out and this has been the theme for the disk brakes on most cars I have owned so why the BA ford do you have any ideas.

[Rudiger]

Yeah a little bit hard to come off 780,000 and then have big front brake troubles. Different car though and a lot more weight I'm tipping.

All to do with the rotors though. I had dreadful problems with mine. I don't think it makes a different on these things if you are a late or early braker. You certainly have had a bad trot from the sounds of things.

All I can tell you is that I got a set of cheap ass slotted rotors off ebay for my BA and never looked back to be honest.

I think they cost be $250 and I fitted them myself but that was after Ford had put the soft pads on.

It is a know fault with them though and a lot of guys have been hit with the same fault. Its not isolated. The diff buse and IRS setup is a joke in a lot of peoples eys. So its not just brakes. Sorry I can't help you more.

[jj1947]

Yeah a little bit hard to come off 780,000 and then have big front brake troubles. Different car though and a lot more weight I'm tipping.

All to do with the rotors though. I had dreadful problems with mine. I don't think it makes a different on these things if you are a late or early braker. You certainly have had a bad trot from the sounds of things.

All I can tell you is that I got a set of cheap ass slotted rotors off ebay for my BA and never looked back to be honest.

I think they cost be $250 and I fitted them myself but that was after Ford had put the soft pads on.

It is a know fault with them though and a lot of guys have been hit with the same fault. Its not isolated. The diff buse and IRS setup is a joke in a lot of peoples eys. So its not just brakes. Sorry I can't help you more.

Hi Again Rudiger.

It looks like your suggested way to go is the popular 1i have acquired a set of RDA slotted and dimpled rotors as I said for this reason I just wanted to find somwone who had got long km after fitting these rotors what did you mean by never looked back in terms of Km after fitting I would just like to get a set of pads to wear out.