TonyD Member 41 Member For: 14y 4m 27d Gender: Male Location: VIC Posted 16/01/11 03:04 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 03:04 AM So who knows what the legal definition of a hoon is????If I am caught doing 20 to 30kmp/h over the speed limit am I a hoon ???? My job for the last decade had me doing that over the maximum legal speed limit almost on a daily basis.Anti-hoon legislation defines what a hoon is.Under current legislation in Victoria, yes, you're a hoon. 25kph and over is an immediate suspension of license and a trip to the impound. Hoon offences are "burnouts, doughnuts, drag racing, repeated driving while disqualified and high-level speeding" which were all added to the Road Safety Act 1986 in 06. The definitions in there but, the cop shop would have a copy of the Act lying around if you wanted to see.Might add that my best mate was made a paraplegic by a hoon driver, hit my mates car on the wrong side of the road at 40kph above the limit. I'm biased into seeing dickheads have their "pride and joy" destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 5m 20d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 16/01/11 03:11 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 03:11 AM We know driving drunk is just stupid. But every day at every hour someone is caught. Why shouldn't their cars be crushed. Very good point, they are as dangerous if not more dangerous then hoons. Why don't their cars get crushed?Oh and everyone bitches about cars getting crushed, has it actually even happened yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiger All round good guy! Lifetime Members 1,122 Member For: 16y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Greenvale, Victoria Posted 16/01/11 03:20 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 03:20 AM I think theres been on Dillz. It was pretty well publicised from memory. But I think the guy was an out and out loon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 16/01/11 03:21 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 03:21 AM Tony I can empathise with you. Truly I can.I can put up a pic of my brother whom I have to live with because some idiot in an overladen and speeding semi who could not stop ran over the top of him while he waited for the lights to turn green.He needs 24/7 care and hasn't the brain power anymore to make himself a cup of coffee. Let alone go back to his profession of a master marnier.While you may find some relief in someones car being crushed. It won't fix the problem of people being human and farking up. Especially teenagers and kids in their early twenties. And neither will crushing their car. Auction the bloody thing and have a relief fund for those affected by road carnage. Ban him from driving for ten years. But crushing a car and wasting time and money is pointless and nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to appease the pollies consciense for the poor effort they put into education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Morrison Donating Members 22 Member For: 15y 25d Gender: Male Location: Jabiru, Northern Territory Posted 16/01/11 03:26 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 03:26 AM (edited) I live in the NT and all you need is someone to have a signed written complaint/statement against you and there goes your car for 48 hrs. after that though you need to be caught on camera or caught by the police themselves.If your caught you get your car on the front page of the paper sporting a banner that reads "This vehicle has been siezed by Police for HOONING" Edited 16/01/11 03:30 AM by Elijah Morrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Morrison Donating Members 22 Member For: 15y 25d Gender: Male Location: Jabiru, Northern Territory Posted 16/01/11 03:30 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 03:30 AM Here is an example: http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2010/09/21/181141_ntnews.htmlThe silly hoon just happens to be my best friend, such a tool lol but still a good bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01txr Member 861 Member For: 17y 10m 1d Gender: Male Location: QLD Posted 16/01/11 04:01 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 04:01 AM RevenueSo sick of the pollies filling there pockets, they make themselfs out to be protectors ofThe people, well why won't they do driver Ed like other countries do, advanced driver ed for those who are interested, teach the young what happens I. High impact accidents, how to avoid them. Teach Fu*kwits how to merge, what indicator to use at a round a bout, fine drivers the same for doing under the limit the same as over. So many times I have been driving down the highway and had to slam brakes on to prevent hitting car in front because some d*ck is to scared to drive at the speed limit up front. They say speed kills, but how many of those occasions has the driver been intoxicated or drug f*cked, that being the real reason. Looks better for there revenue to say it's all speed related and to punish those that do it rather to say it was alcohol or drug related and we are spending tax payers money to rehabilitate them. For f*ck sake how many people have to die from repeat drunk/drugged drivers. You drink drive you get fined (revenue) told not to do it again maybe suspended for 2hrs but then it's all good to do it again. Why don't they crush the repeat intoxicated drivers cars?Suppose it's better to keep fining them rather to lock them up. Guys here that have had or heard of bad injuries or death due to speed can it be said it was solely speed that was the cause and because the offender was intoxicated?There needs to be a partition done to have revenue used as driver Ed. If someone commits a so called hoon offense, rather then make then suffer financial difficulties that would lead to them having to steel to live, how about enforced driver Ed where they have to attend or then have car crushed if they dont. I have had more close calls with people who are uncompedant drivers rather then so called hoons. People need to be educated to drive competently. I have fears on my children starting to drive as yes they will show off to friends, maybe be stupid and drink drive and maybe die in a accident, it I could afford driver Ed or even defensive driver training I would. I have to just try to teach them as best I can and hope they listen. So many incompetent drivers are given licenses, they just barely pass a driving test, have no idea of what to do in emergencies as never taught. Then are allowed to drive amounts us, now how scary is that.Helps with L & P's on them as we know to prepare for the worst, but doesn't help the poor bugger coming towards them in the opposite direction that is unaware of what the poorly taught inexperienced driver may possibly do in a emergency situation. Eg chatting away to passenger friend then car in front stops so they steer straight into grassed medium strip loose traction veer into oncoming traffic.If my car was ever at risk, I would have to be chased for them to take it. Think lots of others will feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo ute79 Member 376 Member For: 16y 2m 19d Gender: Male Location: gladstone qld Posted 16/01/11 06:15 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 06:15 AM TonyD I Can see why you are pissed of with what happened I would be too. Just for the record I don't have a 60k loan for a car and if it was crushed it would not bankrupt me it would just piss me off, a lot. I think more focus should be on fatigue driving and more money should be spent on fixing our roads and increased driver training. Driving 6 hrs to get home from work after a 12 hr shift on dodgy roads is way more dangerous than someone doing a skid in an industrial estate out the back of town in my opinion. Yet for one you can loose you car and the other you are unlikey to get caught before you crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8 eater Member 29 Member For: 13y 11m 19d Gender: Male Location: melbourne Posted 16/01/11 07:49 AM Author Share Posted 16/01/11 07:49 AM Anti-hoon legislation defines what a hoon is.Under current legislation in Victoria, yes, you're a hoon. 25kph and over is an immediate suspension of license and a trip to the impound. Hoon offences are "burnouts, doughnuts, drag racing, repeated driving while disqualified and high-level speeding" which were all added to the Road Safety Act 1986 in 06. The definitions in there but, the cop shop would have a copy of the Act lying around if you wanted to see.Might add that my best mate was made a paraplegic by a hoon driver, hit my mates car on the wrong side of the road at 40kph above the limit. I'm biased into seeing dickheads have their "pride and joy" destroyed.OK YOU HAVE ENLIGHTENED MEYOU ARE BIASED I understand exactly how you feel, my mate travelling at 65 ran of the road, rolled his car in a ditch. he is now a quadriplegic. hes wife got the news 5 hours later , she rang me at 2am I drove her to the hospital, and I know about the heartache and years of re ability, he just lost his concentration for I sec he will pay for that 1 sec for the rest of his life . self pity set in FOR MONTHS WHY ME WHY ME ,very very sad, she was also pregnant at the timebut these hoon laws if you travel 25 above the limit according to you ,anyone could have there car impounded for 30 days that's to severe .it doesn't take much to be 25 over with the cars we have today. young people don't think like older ones they take risks, they make more mistakes,they make those 1 sec stupid decisions ,there is no intent to injure or kill while driving they were young and stupid in my grandfathers day, they are young and stupid now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradles024 Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 15y 1d Gender: Male Posted 16/01/11 11:35 AM Share Posted 16/01/11 11:35 AM . We know driving drunk is just stupid. But every day at every hour someone is caught. Why shouldn't their cars be crushed. They are a proven danger and more so than speed.I cant believe you get in more trouble for spinning the wheels in an empty industrial estate than you do for drink driving through the city?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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