Hoon Laws

[Worm]

It's f*cked!!! I don't drink... God forbid any drunk driver who killed a member of my family or friends...

Besides speeding/street drags... how many other forms of hooning cause death? How many drivers die or cause death ripping skids in an industrial estate???

Maybe they should flash valet tunes into cars for a month if caught hooning? and speed limiters into dickheads cars who do 30+km/h over the speed limit...

[01txr]

Maybe all cars should be like a gee wiz , have to push up driveway and avoid hitting pedestrians for risk of getting by them.

As far as I'm concerned it's all revenue, they need a marketing ploy for the general public to believe and speeding and hoons are it. It's not if they could make any money from some drinking bum that they have to jail.

I have nothing against people drinking, I do occassionally, but at least I know it's affects and being behind a wheel of any car is not the place to be little though in control of a bottle opener.

Wish someone would stand up to these pollies, I will support it in whatever way I can.

Maybe contact that lawyer in Sydney running that law suit against vodafone.

I'm in Queensland so the Vic laws won't affect me unless QLD follow suit.

But do you guys have a racq or equivalent, maybe worth while seeing if they can help in some way of getting action done.

Get so annoyed how they always target car enthusiasts for revenue.

We have money to throw away because we spend it on our cars so hit us.

[xhxrsix]

It sucks that a hoon offence can be something so minor.. ever spun the inside wheel a little doing a u-turn, passed a car and gave it a little bit of gas, slight wheelspin taking off in the wet?? if so that means your a hoon!! you could loose your car for 30 days for that!

The worst part is no one will do anything, people are too lazy and wont care about it until its too late and they're without there 20-40-100k car for a month.

I can understand impounding/fines for certain things, but they have taken it too far.

Is there any other 'crime' in aus that can carry such a large fine for so little? give it a few months and they'll try us for attempted murder if we spin the wheels!

Anyone know how/who to complain to about it all?

[Dagabond]

Yeah before you know it everybody will be walking and there will be thousands and thousands of holding yards filled with dusty motor veHicles...

[01txr]

No got it all wrong, think Wiki states a boon as being a young male in a hotted up import. Something like that as I remember.

And apparently us Falcon & Late model camira drivers are middle aged bogans.

So if that's correct we have nothing to fear.

I'm a bogan as not young and don't own a import.

Only way for something to be done is for someone to organize a car club committee to speak for the numerous car groups in your state.

It would need for everyone to stand up as one to fight for the rights not the odd whinge here and there on a forum.

This is where the Gov has us as we are all in our small specific groups. We all need to stand against them to get any fair result.

It would be great if we had a minister for car enthusiasts to do something about this revenue raising scam they have.

Also push for driver Ed and defensive driving as compulsory and funded by the state by speed camera revenue.

You speed you help pay to educate a new driver.

You boon you get fined and have to attend Defensive Driving with teachings in consequences on what could happen in a loss of control situations.

That's fair not this put your money into pollies pocket, impound your car crap.

How much effect would happen if people actually where taut how unsafe it is in a collison eg even at speed limit 60k head on, very messy may help change the perspective of a young uneducated driver.

I recall back when I was a hoon, must admit though I would never make a mistake and if I did crash my car was a big solid piece of metal and would only ding a panel or 2.

The rare occasion I had lost control but I always allowed for the error so lucky I did.

There where times when I though my car would pull straight under power as it normally does but no it decides to do something different.

Maybe due to slight unseen dip or crack in road surface.

Back then I thought I was invincible, I have learnt now with age and experience that many a time if something went wrong I or others may not be around.

Cars don't always behave as expected.

Thing is you can't expect a young driver to know these things unless taut.

Most cases of fatalities are the young so called hoons, not the older guys who know better.

The young need to be educated if the gov really cares about saving lifes and not about filling there pockets teach our youth, not punish them.

Make then better safer drivers.

I dare say there will be alot of people that are not going to hand over there cars and that means dangerous car chases.

Not smart move.

[dre]

Reminds me of a sticker I saw..

"can't impound me if you can't catch me"

[Turbo6FG]

There is definitely a few of them in the police force. I know of someone who got their vehicle impounded for 28 days after it went through a speed camera. The cops turn up about a month later at his house & ask him who was driving (it's a business car - he has about ten in his name). He doesn't know who was driving due to the lenght of time that's passed since the offence. The cop agrees they don't think it's him due to age, clean driving record etc & that it's most likely one of his employees, but they also say that if he doesn't find out who it was, they will take him to court & he will be fined & lose his licence for 6 months. They say he has x amount of days to find out.

Anyway, he asks around, of course nobody owns up. He is getting worried as he thinks he is going to lose his licence for 6 months for an offence he didn't commit & have a hoon charge against his name. Phones up the local police station thinking he's sunk & gets onto an older cop who is quite decent (not aforementioned over enthusiastic jumped up new boy).

Senior cop basically said junior cop was lying, that if he couldn't find the driver they couldn't press charges. To cap it all off the speed camera location on the photo form was on an arrow straight bit of highway (about 800m long on google maps) with no buildings, only small bushes (to hide the camera behind no doubt) & empty fields. It also was not an accident blackspot.

It's the few bad cops that give decent ones a bad name. This older guy was doing his job & telling it like it was, they are there to uphold the law not make stuff up to try & get convictions. It's the good cops like that who use their discretion too - if they catch someone doing 15 over on a bare stretch of road, they give them a caution & let them go. If they get someone doing 10 over in a school zone, they fine them & that's how it should be.

There's too much politics in our road safety these days & not enough driver education. The amount of time I see people swerving all over the road trying to text on their phone or sitting in the right lane doing 20 under is unbelievable. I think it's far too easy to get a drivers licence in this country. Give drivers some training & I'm sure they will be able to do 130 on the highway while they overtake a truck without spinning wildly off the road.

Edited 17/01/11 12:10 AM by Turbo6FG

[Guest XR09]

Here in QLD they can break the speed limit 5 times before we can fail them on Qride. No shoite. They get even more NCE's Non critical errors. And still the same CE's Critical errors. It just got a whole lot easier to get a license. And this is for a bike. Oh well, good thing about bikes is they sort out the fools a lot quicker.

Edited 17/01/11 03:52 AM by XR09

[r8 eater]

I put this post on to get a reaction.

iam 60 so these new proposed hoon laws wont affect me much, even if I exceed the speed limit by 25 on the odd occasion while passing another car.the cop would probably just fine me ,but it may affect you younger fellows, to the full extend of the law.getting your cars impounded for 30 days. the point that concerns me most,and missed by a lot of you guys are my civil liberty's, are slowly being eroded bit, by, bit. year after year. I used to go four wheel driving did that for 12 years.camping over night in the bush fishing etc etc. then the park rangers wanted to ban a lot of tracks we used to drive on (pressure from the greens)because we may pick up a few seeds, on our dirty tyres and spread them in other places, they also tried to stop horse back riding for the same reason.the 4x4 clubs decided to have a protest rally in the city, hundreds turned up in there 4 wheelers and a negotiation process started with the government

they stopped the cattle men grazing there cattle in the high country, you should see all the blackberry's now.

the federal government increased the retirement age to 67, not a boo out of many people at all. wont affect me but I still complained to my local member

smoking is another, if government were serious they could ban smoking , but they collect to much on tax

look what the greens have done, if you agree or disagree, they complain they get in our politicians ear and get results

GUYS PROTEST get angry, contact your local member, sit down for an hour email him or her let your feelings be known. DO SOMETHING

THE POINT IAM MAKING IS if you want something changed or amended, call your politicians, or in 30 years time we will all be so over governed it wont be funny.

oh nearly forgot one .another one of our civil liberty's will be lost soon ZERO ALCOHOL READING WHILE DRIVING no more going to your mates for 1 beer and a chat because you wont be able to drive home

tell the pollies ,its better to get advanced driving tests, etc etc read the posts the guys have come up with some good ideas and also tell them that you feel 30 day impoundment for your car is to harsh what is a definition of a hoon driver

good luck

Edited 17/01/11 10:51 AM by r8 eater

[tab]

After getting harassed and threatened with all sorts of things after a bit of tyre noise when leaving a set of lights, I tried exactly that and got absolutely nowhere. It's up there with the speed-kills mantra as a true vote winner so no pollie of any persuasion wants to touch it.

I'm not one to just easily give up on something I'm passionate about, but it's yet another perceived problem blown way out of proportion that the stupid fckin sensationalised headline seeking media have created. There's no way of correcting that.

...is a benefit of driving the g-spec, pretty much get left alone unless you're being a complete tool.