leardim Member 5 Member For: 14y 3m 11d Posted 23/12/10 03:16 AM Share Posted 23/12/10 03:16 AM hey guys!!Ive got a 2004 ba falcon xr6 mkII and I thought it was time to upgrade the system... I have a asl ipod/iphone booster aux connecter, so ill just be using the stock h/u and since I dont have all the money in the world I wanted to add bit by the question is should I get speakers x4 front and rear..... or a sub first? which would sound better on their own?would greatly appreciate your opinionscheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace blind leading the blind Member 3,657 Member For: 16y 5m 1d Gender: Male Location: Mt Alford, Queensland Posted 23/12/10 04:10 AM Share Posted 23/12/10 04:10 AM get the sub mate - the stock speakers will be ok enough for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingers. Member 227 Member For: 14y 11m 22d Posted 23/12/10 10:20 AM Share Posted 23/12/10 10:20 AM the sub will sound better than upgrading the speakers. If you are putting in a new sub and a bigger amp and also plan on running the speakers off of an amp the it would be easier to put the speakers and speaker amp in first but if your not going to amp the speakers put a sub in first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark522 Donating Members 128 Member For: 14y 11m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 23/12/10 10:22 AM Share Posted 23/12/10 10:22 AM my mate is running 2 pioneer subs in a custom box built for dubstep with ALOT of bass and the speakers are still holding up fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonadman2 Member 140 Member For: 18y 3m 20d Gender: Male Location: Perth - WA Posted 24/12/10 12:07 AM Share Posted 24/12/10 12:07 AM As mentioned here, the sub is going to provide a more balanced sound. If the speakers are high passed at 80hz, (and there aren't many speakers that will play down to 80Hz linearly), then there are 2 whole octaves of music missing. The sub will flesh out these 2 octaves and give back that oomph. Where it all goes wrong, is working out how much extra 'oomph' you need. Whacking 2 x 12's in the back is not going to provide a very balanced sound. For example, you are listening to music that is reproducing a kick drum. Typically a kick drum will have fundamentals that are reproduced by the sub. But if you turn your front speakers off, that kickdrum suddenly sounds muddy or boomy. So you need the midbass to give it that snap, that punch in the chest feeling that a kick drum should have. So now you need good midbass speakers. Remember before I was saying that most midbass won't play linearly down to 80hz? Having 2 x 12" subs booming away at 80Hz and under, and then a piddly 5" oem driver playing from 80hz up, is going to result in a pretty muddy and boomy sounding system. So, choose carefully, a quality 8" or 10" ($300-$400) will give plenty of bass to accentuate the factory system without having massive amounts of boominess, or that 'cheap' sounding $150 pioneer woofer sound that so many people think is great.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leardim Member 5 Member For: 14y 3m 11d Posted 24/12/10 10:12 AM Author Share Posted 24/12/10 10:12 AM thanks heaps guys !! just in time for boxing day!!! I was thinking of getting a 12 inch kicker ??? I went to autobahnnn the other day and the guy was all over orion im guessing its just one of their things to make sales?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Resident idiot. Donating Members 2,068 Member For: 14y 4m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 25/12/10 03:50 AM Share Posted 25/12/10 03:50 AM dont worry about what the salesperson thinks sounds good. Its your car. You have to like it. That said don't dismiss everything they say as they might actually be trying to help.Don't rush the purchase of your sub. the sound is very different between brands and can vary massively depending on the box you choose. The amp is not so important (as long as it can reliably power the item you need.)As per earlier post- there will be a massive gap in the sound if you go nuts and fit 2 good 12" subs. I would go 1 quality 10" in a large box to reproduce great sound and once the money is there replace the speakers (front only) and then if you want you could add another sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leardim Member 5 Member For: 14y 3m 11d Posted 01/01/11 07:17 AM Author Share Posted 01/01/11 07:17 AM (edited) thanks for the input ! by front only ... do you mean to never touch the rear speakers? Edited 20/01/11 12:47 AM by RHR No need to quote above post. USE FAST REPLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Resident idiot. Donating Members 2,068 Member For: 14y 4m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 01/01/11 08:10 AM Share Posted 01/01/11 08:10 AM Not never. But don't hurry. Alot of people buy speakers all round but if you spent the same amount of $$ and just bought fronts only you won't regret it. (don't forget you face forward and so do your ears!)So go out get a sub and an amp then when there is some more money go to as many shops as you need to listen to as much as you can with YOUR MUSIC buy the speakers that sound the best to you Could probably buy one amp to run he sub that can run the speakers later on- save a bit of cash later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leardim Member 5 Member For: 14y 3m 11d Posted 04/01/11 09:37 AM Author Share Posted 04/01/11 09:37 AM thanks heaps for your help dude .. I got a good deal at jbhifi and bought a sub and an amp an then when back to get front spits!!! autobarn is installing them next week :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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