xrt Member 160 Member For: 16y 7m 19d Posted 21/12/10 12:18 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 12:18 AM Has to be a manual, seems to be more and more stories coming out of busted zf autos so they aren't as strong as once thought, so much more fun to drive, my xr6t is an auto and I've regretted buying it nearly every day for only that reason, but I've never driven a new gt so maybe you should drive both and see which one you like, also I think the new gt will need a new exhaust anyway if your after a good note the ones I've heard don't sound that flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 8m 14d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/12/10 01:12 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 01:12 AM Anyway, I'm sure many people can come up with choosing the GT over the FG, and vice versa, but my main question comes down to:Manual or Auto? The GT is still an FG...I'd go Manual, to try and make it a bit more interesting all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty XR6T Donating Members 516 Member For: 14y 10m 9d Gender: Male Posted 21/12/10 03:06 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 03:06 AM this is the only thread I have ever read where people have recommended the manual over the auto!oh the ZF can do this, it can do that I love my manual to death, it is by far the best box I've ever owned, the triple synchros into 2nd and 3rd are unbeatable, my stocky FG Manual ran a 12.89 down the qtr with a 1.99 60ft which is right up there with the autos, even faster than some.society has become lazy, oh no you have to use a clutch you poor thing.The skill of driving has gone unfortunately, with traction/stability control and the ZF auto you are merely a passenger that nicely asks the car to accelerate please, brake please, turn the corner please, if you feel up to it can you please change gear.The word "driver" should be stricken from the records.Sorry my anger is partially due to a sticky moment this morning where I was in the left lane on Maroondah hwy, came across an "obstruction and had to move over, there was a gap a little in front of me so I went to down shift to accelerate into the gap and the f*ing car stayed there with the traction light on, I had to reef the brakes and pull in when there was a gap.F*OFF CAR, I AM THE DRIVER NOT YOU, YOU DO WHAT I SAY All well off to the tuner to get the traction removed completely ohh wait for the flames to come back sorry im at work and am really bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 14d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 21/12/10 04:07 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 04:07 AM Yeah Rusty, I see where you coming from. I too really hate living in the 21st century along with all the things that make life safer and easier.So just to prove my point will drive with the A/C, windscreen wipers, seat belts, stereo, airbags, ABS, TC, power windows and indicators all disabled...and even contemplating removing those new fang-dangled injector thingos and whacking a carby back in there just to make me feel like more of a man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty XR6T Donating Members 516 Member For: 14y 10m 9d Gender: Male Posted 21/12/10 04:20 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 04:20 AM yep turn them all off, you wont be so smart when skynet fights back what does the stereo have to do with making things safer or easier? when you have an accident does it say sh!t man you just had an accident? call it a late prevention device I'm just really bored at work mate, and had a close call this morning that I know was ok to get out of but my car didnt agree and almost put me in it.I can admit traction control has saved me a few times, ABS however has never saved me, its just thrown me into the car infront when I wasnt even close to locking up... but that's different and very long winded story in itself so we should stay away from that one.But come on, is the ZF all the mystical and all empowering? the auto guys talk about it like its the device of the century, that it goes far and beyond being an auto and actually turns into the stig and drives the car for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 8m 14d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/12/10 04:25 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 04:25 AM Buuuurrrrnnn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 14d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 21/12/10 04:29 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 04:29 AM Well you see it's kind of like Fight Club. The first rule about....ahhh never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 8m 14d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/12/10 04:34 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 04:34 AM Nah I agree with both of you actually.Tabs right about all the technology being a good thing but on the other hand Rusty seems to be a much more intelligent bloke choosing an XRT over a glorified XT with a lux pack, so it's really hard to find a clear winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty XR6T Donating Members 516 Member For: 14y 10m 9d Gender: Male Posted 21/12/10 04:37 AM Share Posted 21/12/10 04:37 AM thing is going to be gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkayne Member 203 Member For: 16y 1m 6d Gender: Male Posted 21/12/10 10:31 AM Author Share Posted 21/12/10 10:31 AM (edited) The GT is still an FG...I'd go Manual, to try and make it a bit more interesting all round.Sorry, I meant the GT or the F6 (my mistake)..Anyway.. with all the replies to go manual; I'm really keen on going manual. I mean, for the 6T, there was no question to go the Auto; boost between gear changes, and just a better drivetrain. I always said to myself if I go for a V8, I'd get a manual.BUT, and a big BUT at that; half of you recommending the manual; have you actually driven an FG in Manual? The clutch is hard to push, the gears need to be "locked" into place (it's like pushing something wit a tight rubber-band around it; it fights back).And for those that say choosing an auto is a "lay back do whatever the car wants"; I completely disagree. Firstly, you have sequential shift, which means you can change gears as much as a manual can. My FG XR6T is an Automatic, and having the amount of KW at the rear wheels on it, I simply cannot drive it in Drive or Performance Mode when giving it a foot-flat acceleration. The traction comes on and it keeps knocking the gear changes all over the place. With Sequential Shift, I can keep in first, then change when I want to when launching it, and it won't flick all over the place.So, am I lazy for buying an Auto? Are others lazy for having an Auto? No, they're not.. In fact, having anything with boost and an auto is a smart thing.I'm leaning more towards the manual after reading replies and hearing the car again today (a dealer in town has a manual demonstrator that always goes past my work during lunch hour), and it does sound nice. I don't know how the automatic would sound, but I'd assume it wouldn't have that "whaaaa stop".. put put put "whaaa" sound (of gear changing)..Anyway.. still as confused as the start of the thread.. :(Anyone driven the FG and find the gears in the manual a bit hard to manage? Edited 21/12/10 10:34 AM by Arkayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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