rs2000 Member 259 Member For: 21y 5m 30d Location: riddells creek Posted 13/12/10 02:46 AM Share Posted 13/12/10 02:46 AM (edited) as the title states, I am interested in getting a custom tune on a stock n/a ford territory rwd-4 speed auto. I would like to know what other people have payed/been quoted for there n/a vehicles. also is it a necessity to change the thermostat as part of the tune.Thanks Edited 13/12/10 02:55 AM by rs2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKa Donating Members 4,243 Member For: 18y 2m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, VIC Posted 13/12/10 03:01 AM Share Posted 13/12/10 03:01 AM Do u have an Xcal?Tunes are around $500 to anywhere near $1000, plus the cost of an Xcal if you dont have one already.. Might cost less cause its an n/a but I dunno. No its not a necessity to change the thermostat.If your gonna tune yours I'd recommend doing a few mods, as the difference of a tune in n/a form isnt much, plus, if you just get the tune, then add mods you'd need another tune to get the most out of the mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs2000 Member 259 Member For: 21y 5m 30d Location: riddells creek Posted 13/12/10 03:09 AM Author Share Posted 13/12/10 03:09 AM I do have a xcal3,the thermostat is one of those items that seems to be pushed as a necessity by some(most)tuning houses.I have considered 4490 pacemakers & 2.5" catback system but when quoted nearly 1k for tune & thermostat I nearly fell over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Member 88 Member For: 15y 2m 2d Posted 13/12/10 10:57 AM Share Posted 13/12/10 10:57 AM We charge $700 for a tune of that type if you have your own Xcal. It sound like a lot, perhaps, but we have $180k worth of 4wd dyno, and I have over 15 years operating a dyno amongst other things. The reality is mechanics get the lowest hourly rate of most trades, due to a lack of lisecensing amongst other things. No one seems to bat an eyelid at a plumber or electrician who charges $100 per hour plus call out and they keep thier tools in a $30k van and don't have rent and the overheads of mechanics, especially specialist mechanics. The government is trying to get more people into mechanics as apprentices yet they still havent realized that most leave the industry for more money not because they don't enjoy it. I have mates that were mechanics who now service Coke machines and Geri's as the money is so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs2000 Member 259 Member For: 21y 5m 30d Location: riddells creek Posted 13/12/10 11:39 PM Author Share Posted 13/12/10 11:39 PM I appreciate your honest response, but prior to purchasing my xcal3 I spoke to a number of tuning shops and was quoted $1600-$1700 for box & tune.it was around 1k for the box and the rest was taken up in the custom tuning, so no problems there.now after purchasing a xcal3 independent to a tuning shop and running around with a generic tune for the last 6 weeks or so I thought it was time to get a custom tune and now after speaking to the same tuning houses the costs have now suddenly risen to nearly 1k which is ott. kartman are you a melb based tuning shop, if so, can you send me a pm with your contact details.also what gains have you seen when custom tuning my type of vehicle, not so much outright kw's but more about throttle and driving responses.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berzerker Donating Members 767 Member For: 16y 10m 23d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 14/12/10 02:33 PM Share Posted 14/12/10 02:33 PM The flash box shouldnt be anywhere near $1000.. rrp is $795. I think CV Performance are selling them for $695 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoolxr6 Member 312 Member For: 13y 11m 29d Posted 14/12/10 08:59 PM Share Posted 14/12/10 08:59 PM As with everything you will get what you pay for. In Sydney tunes range from about $ 400 upto $ 1200. I have experienced both ends of the scale and can tell you from experience that I now stick with the dearer end of the scale. Generally the cheaper end of the tunes start off with a base map off another vehicle that is then tweaked to suit yours. A few power runs later and checking of your wide open throttle mixtures there you have a half an hour later a WOT cheap tune. A more comprehensive tune begins with downloading your map from the ECU and then data logging the vehicle and making necessary changes as you go along. Power, crispy acceleration and economy can then be achieved through the entire RPM range. This is a timely procedure if done right. I am not trying to start any debates or bag any tuners but am just voicing my personal experiences. Good luck with it mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP85 REST IN PEACE V8 Donating Members 469 Member For: 16y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: Woodridge on the park bench Posted 14/12/10 10:12 PM Share Posted 14/12/10 10:12 PM 150 an hour best tune's I have had yet and no bullsh*t that usually comes with the big dollar tunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs2000 Member 259 Member For: 21y 5m 30d Location: riddells creek Posted 14/12/10 11:27 PM Author Share Posted 14/12/10 11:27 PM The flash box shouldnt be anywhere near $1000.. rrp is $795. I think CV Performance are selling them for $695I did pay $695 through capa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 16y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 15/12/10 03:48 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 03:48 AM Spool and kartman hit the nail on the head. Are you going to do anything else before the tune? Exhaust or intake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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