suzuki malisha Member 13 Member For: 15y 6m 22d Posted 14/12/10 11:57 AM Share Posted 14/12/10 11:57 AM yeah exactly...still would like to know what the fastest tuneonly F6 has run...tyres or whatever...dont matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUTURA4L Member 21 Member For: 19y 4m 8d Posted 14/12/10 12:32 PM Share Posted 14/12/10 12:32 PM In order to make a fair comparison between the new GT335 and the F6310 and compare apples with apples, would someone like to tell us what is the fastest time recored for a F6310 on a tune and M/T's alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01txr Member 861 Member For: 17y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: QLD Posted 14/12/10 02:19 PM Share Posted 14/12/10 02:19 PM Winstor, how could a inline 6 be smoother than a shorter better balancedMore square engine. Our i6 would have one of the longest cranks which is not well balancedAs it's not safe spinning over 6500rpm due to it's torsional twists andPoor counter weight design not to mention it is just cast iron. In comparisment the shorter in length and stroke steel coyote crank has theAdvantage in all those departments. Also the less degrees of crankshaft revolution between combustionCycles will also help in smoother running. There is one way to find a answer on the reliability is to see if anyone canGet testing info from ford. I have heard of testing from Ford before on the wot tests whereAn engine is run till it stops. If someone could find out the duration of each i6 and coyote it mightJust confirm how much more stronger and reliable the forged Coyote bottom endIs compared to the cast I6. Also nobody has mentioned the fact of engine block material howIt will have less head gasket sealing problems as head to block is sameMaterial and again shorter lengths less expansion differences. As with cast iron block to alloy head. Another advantage is that each cylinder will run at a closer tempAs the i6 being longer means the rear cylinders run hotter than a compactV8 as the coolant has passed 5 cylinders before it gets to cool number 6V8 each end cylinder only sees 3 cylinders each before coolant reaches rear cylinders. This means less fuel compensation for correct afr's and anotherAdvantage in being able to run smoother than a i6 as more balancedTemp front to rear. This again goes for the cylinder head. A easy way to feel the advantage of a engine smoothness to cylinderCount would be to compare a lawn mower to a Harley then the HarleyWith a say r1. See the picture, more cylinders the smoother a engineWill run. The i6 is great but the v8 is the ultimate. Fastest combustion engines in the world are v8 top fuel. Not single cylinder, i2, v2, i3, i4, v4, i5, i6, v6, v10, v12 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Donating Members 123 Member For: 16y 8m 1d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 14/12/10 10:39 PM Author Share Posted 14/12/10 10:39 PM So what your saying is the i6 is a piece of Cast iron Junk and is relaible as a old Expensive Daewoo Gemmini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBOO57 Member 538 Member For: 15y 5m 16d Posted 15/12/10 01:51 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 01:51 AM according to what you are saying, the tyres will need to make a 1.1 second difference? for a F6310 to run 11.7 sec's ???Not what I said at all......Tyres are a part of it along with a tune.....Not sure how you could misread what I said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01txr Member 861 Member For: 17y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: QLD Posted 15/12/10 02:36 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 02:36 AM Cranny don't take things out of context. I never said it is a piece of crap. Far from it. It is just not the quality of what theCoyote has on offer. Never could possible compare it to Gemini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 15/12/10 03:01 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 03:01 AM The crank in the I6 is the big problem. It's why the motor rattles itself loose.It's never going to be a rever either. Not with that long a stroke. But that is what gives the T its grunt so low. Any why it has so little lag. Just a pitty it sounds like a wet fart lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robos F6 Donating Members 407 Member For: 15y 8m 28d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 15/12/10 03:58 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 03:58 AM In order to make a fair comparison between the new GT335 and the F6310 and compare apples with apples, would someone like to tell us what is the fastest time recored for a F6310 on a tune and M/T's alone?Not sure of a tuned one with M/T's, but there is a stock one running 12.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 4m 13d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 15/12/10 07:05 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 07:05 AM The I6 is an old engine, been revamped a fair few times but still old technology upgraded.Dont know about the the v8 may the same thing, but not sounding that way.Not belittling the I6 good engine great power, easy to mod. But the idea of a truely sorted Ford V8 with the same modding characteristics and reliabilty for the mild to not so mild upgrade. Not to mention that its not as heavy as the old V8 is drooool city. Add to that Mr Bean talking forced induction as well, well I am off to play with me pen*s.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunna Donating Members 813 Member For: 18y 3m 4d Posted 15/12/10 09:22 AM Share Posted 15/12/10 09:22 AM but has someone actually driven the car (not a passeneger) and put forward a positive review. Clearly I'm invisible or my posts are all written in white font on a white background. As I've said before, the miami is a better engine than the I6, and the cars are faster. However, the limiting factor for both powertrains is the driveline/chassis, hence the gap cannot be opened up (detuned, no intercooler, etc) as much as it was/could be, for the sake of durability. Ford is happy for you to tinker in the aftermarket, just don't come sooking when things break - Ford designs and releases a config they can back (and even then there are special causes as is well known!), and sometimes the compromise must be performance.End of the day it comes down to what you prefer to drive - I think its fantastic that there is a genuine choice between I6T and V8 at last. Whilst I love my I6T, the linear delivery of a manual GT (I prefer the ZF with the turbo) is going to sway me one day, but I'm not rushing out to buy one for a few years yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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