GreyXR6_Turbo Member 60 Member For: 16y 2m 13d Posted 09/12/10 07:17 AM Share Posted 09/12/10 07:17 AM Gday all Just coming up to holidays, I noticed that when I accelerate up a hill will turning to the left, the rear end sways badly, and feels like I have a flat tyre! Ford has just performed one of their in depth services (not!), and claim that one of my control blade bushes had collapsed!. This was replaced under extended warranty. They also have said that one of my 'rear lower control arm bushes' (RLCA) had excessive play. They didnt have the time to replace it they claim. On driving home, I noticed that the problem was still very apparant. On getting home, I crawled underneath and had a feel of the drivers side 'RLCA'. It could twist it maybe 15 degrees max. I have also taken some pictures of the other control blade bush they didnt replace! Is this within Ford tolerances? To me it seems the bush is collapsed, as the pin which goes through the bush is not concentric with the bush sleeve? Could this be causing my swaying issues? Here is the new bush If anyone has had any similar problems, could you please make some suggestions? It seems I once again have to troubleshoot Ford service problems which I am paying them to find! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 16y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 09/12/10 10:23 AM Share Posted 09/12/10 10:23 AM (edited) The blade link mount bar (alloy) should definitely be centred (in the vertical plane) in it's bush with no load on it. Look for tears in the rubber as it is majorly voided in std form. Quite useless with the std bush IMO. Much better with a poly bush. That bush only controls the rotational torque load, not lateral roll loads....ie tramp etc only. I have seen that the RLCA bush does allow a large amount of twist in std form. The question I suppose is how much lateral movement does it allow? If you can twist it that far by hand without disassembling it, I would say it is rooted. The only other thing that can resist twist there is the sway bar link to LRCA joint. As for the roll, check the sway bar......that it's links and mount brackets are not broken. The above para and the previous sentence may be related?????? Edited 09/12/10 10:36 AM by Smoke them tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm79 Donating Members 214 Member For: 15y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 09/12/10 01:01 PM Share Posted 09/12/10 01:01 PM I've had both control blade bushes rooted on my car, and the only way I noticed was the crappy ride, knocking and vibrations I could feel in the back end.Dealer told me the way to tell if a control blad bush was stuffed was if you drive in a straight line and go on and off the throttle lightly, if the rear end skips right, bushes are stuffed.However, I also had the rear lower inner control arm bushs (the toe adjustment ones) fail. At least Pedders said they were stuffed, but Ford thought not. When driving and turning right, I could feel the car rolling over the back left wheel, and it would wiggle under load. Specially noticable at roundabouts when there was quick weight transfer from side to side. Felt very disconcerting.Ford swapped them for me anyways, and problem solved. Problem is, its a cradle and diff out job to get them done... Plus an alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiger All round good guy! Lifetime Members 1,122 Member For: 16y 6m 16d Gender: Male Location: Greenvale, Victoria Posted 09/12/10 02:35 PM Share Posted 09/12/10 02:35 PM Mate if you post a message to senna_t on this forum (he monitors this type of thread anyway) he will tell you what the story is. Pat is the suspension Guru for these cars.If in doubt though, dont go to Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 9m 18d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 10/12/10 06:46 AM Share Posted 10/12/10 06:46 AM Definitely a problem with that bush - as smokethemtyres said, the factory bushes are pretty useless - upgrading to polyurethane items will improve traction and reduce any axle tramp - plus you'll never have to replace them...The "hyme joint" on the lower control arm is a steel style bush - they do regularly become loose - particularly when you live in an area with alot of potholes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyXR6_Turbo Member 60 Member For: 16y 2m 13d Posted 15/12/10 02:15 AM Author Share Posted 15/12/10 02:15 AM Thanks for all the replies! I was armed properly when I visited my Ford dealer.The car was dropped in at 8 am in the morning. I showed them the above photos of the blade bushes. They said they would 'have a look at them properly'. On picking up the car at 3pm, they said they replaced the drivers side RLCA (rear lower control arm). They claim the passengers blade bush was within tolerances!However, on driving home, the car felt and handles like new again! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 16y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 16/12/10 11:59 AM Share Posted 16/12/10 11:59 AM Good stuff.I would say for it to feel like it was, that it was completely chopped out.Surprised there was no clunking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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