Barra Donating Members 467 Member For: 16y 3m 15d Gender: Male Location: Toowoomba Posted 27/11/10 12:53 PM Share Posted 27/11/10 12:53 PM Currently in Euro 4 exhausts, not sure if in the F6, is a restriction ring, from what I understand it's there to aid the cat in heating up quicker than previous models as the cat is very close to the turbo, yet at operating temp it's effectively a 2.5" system from the start. I've gone ahead and had this ring removed today with a die grinder as it's only held in with 3 small welds. This is located on the outlet from the cat section of pipe at the flange.I was concerned that it may throw up a warning light, yet after 160 Kms of driving no dramas there, it definately flows much better, no change in sound though. Does come on boost noticeably earlier now too. I did notice on my dashhawk that the cat temps actually drop when idling and usually sit aroung 850 Degrees when at operating temp, now sit on 700.One more thing, the bolts used to connect the flanges, are slightly rectangular and can strip easily.'10 FG XR50T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_John_ Member 287 Member For: 14y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 27/11/10 08:23 PM Share Posted 27/11/10 08:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 2d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 28/11/10 12:03 AM Share Posted 28/11/10 12:03 AM I would think that the cat temp readings is coincidental, these figures are predictive not factual so unless software changes were made it would still think things were normal, but good to hear it goes better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barra Donating Members 467 Member For: 16y 3m 15d Gender: Male Location: Toowoomba Posted 28/11/10 02:21 AM Author Share Posted 28/11/10 02:21 AM Agreed. Yet never seen the temp drop at idle.? Could the faster flow through from the turbo be cooling it somewhat, with that slight back pressure gone now? My Dashhawk gets readings from the OBD2 Port. Noticed Mv on 2nd O2 sensor is different, yet no engine light. Curious if an aftermarket cat was put in place would it read differently or give warning, without a tune. Does the new F6 Euro 4 have the same restriction ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 2d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 28/11/10 02:54 AM Share Posted 28/11/10 02:54 AM What I was saying is, even if the cat temp was lower the ecu would not know this as there is no sensor to check it, it is a predictive number based on what the ecu thinks is happening based on the programming equation that is in the ecuThe o2 readings should be different, this is how the ecu knows the cat is functioning as it is designed to do, a different cat will start to get the rear o2 working similar to front and will trigger the MIL light whan the computer does a diagnostic trip od the cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barra Donating Members 467 Member For: 16y 3m 15d Gender: Male Location: Toowoomba Posted 28/11/10 03:15 AM Author Share Posted 28/11/10 03:15 AM So where do I get the reading in Degrees for cat temp from, that I have on the dashhawk? Must be a sensor for it, or does it calculate this reading from other imputs?I'll stop questioning it and enjoy. Hope the info helps others looking to do minor mods with std exhaust. Plus spoke to a lead mechanic at a ford dealership, and he wasn't even aware it existed. Not saying much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 2d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 28/11/10 10:03 AM Share Posted 28/11/10 10:03 AM the reading is what the ford ecu has predicted, the dash hawk is just reading this, there is no sensor, the ecu wants to know rough cat temp to turn on cat protection when needed etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barra Donating Members 467 Member For: 16y 3m 15d Gender: Male Location: Toowoomba Posted 29/11/10 01:33 AM Author Share Posted 29/11/10 01:33 AM Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 9m 2d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 29/11/10 03:06 AM Share Posted 29/11/10 03:06 AM welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanBatman G666E Turbo!!! Member 1,008 Member For: 15y 1m 13d Gender: Male Posted 29/11/10 05:17 AM Share Posted 29/11/10 05:17 AM cat protection?whats the change when this occurs?less timing/boost? more fuel?hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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