American Flash Tuners

[TheoF6]

I got one of the US xcal3 flash boxes and my tuner was able to do it .. it took him some times to figure it out how to get around it .. from what I heard he has been doing XCAL3 and Custom tunes for like $1000..

[RegSpec]

Since I've got to get a new tuner anyway since my xcal 1 is now fundamentally useless.....with the state of the dollar right now, one of these looks pretty good.

So before I bend over for 750 odd bucks (plus the cost of a tune).....what's the deal with these things?

Are they a viable option?

Who was your tuner Theo?

Edited 14/10/10 07:33 AM by BionicXR6T

[TheoF6]

I spoke to my tuner and he doesnt want to be named .. but I am sure if you ring around and ask a few tuners in sydney you might find him...

[Turbo6FG]

This is one of the reasons sct used for shutting down X1. Tuners who do this should have their distributorship taken off them, otherwise everyone else suffers for it in the long term.

[4DZILR]

I dunno ... not worth the headache...

if anybody is considering this .... wait another month and save for the 3000au

Edited 18/10/10 03:27 AM by 4DZILR

[Henz]

This is partly what f*cked it for us that had xcal 1s. Theo your tuner is f*cking goose.

[nathen]

if sct has banned the xcal 1 box it is useless to them.so why not ??

[Henz]

What about the implications for the tuners tuning them? The softwaremwouldnhave to be able to pick up if it's an x1 box.

This resetting of the boxes Led to them been shutoff don't wanna do it and find sct cut the whole market off

[nathen]

here is why

Dear Faithful CAPA Flash Tuner Dealers,

On Wednesday, 28th January we sent out an email asking you not to update your software. The reason for this was we were alerted that SCT were in the process of switching off the tuners ability to reflash Flash 1 Boxes. The reason for this as far as we can see, is due to the misinformation provided by individuals not loyal to CAPA. The information given to SCT was that CAPA was not selling boxes anymore, but resetting boxes as a revenue stream. Everyone that deals with CAPA knows that moving forwards, when CAPA had sold the last of its Flash 1 Boxes, that the opportunity existed to reflash Flash 1 Boxes. You may however remember some special emails providing new pricing sent previously advertising FP tuner flashes. This was to create feedback from our tuners to see if any demand exists for a $100 type flash with no box, the same as HP Tuners. The feedback was that the box is the mainstream product and customers have now become accustomed that it’s the correct way to tune a Falcon. We see this as the future. Never the less, recycling a Flash 1 is a great product to compete with HP Tuners. With SCT’s support CAPA would have been able to create a system to reset Flash 1 Boxes that would provide a cost effecting product for the tuner to compete and also a royalty stream for SCT.

We have always supported SCT even after the numerous amounts of things they have done wrong against us including selling us 700 GM boxes on the condition that they would initialise the GM tuning system in Australia 3 years ago. We purchased 700 units which we still have in stock, costing us hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the best that SCT can tell us is that they can’t help us because deal was done with the old directors in the previous company. Also, as you may also remember they threw support behind Dreamscience in the UK and gave them power to undermine us and take over the dealers in Australia, they called all the Australian dealers after SCT gave them the database details, telling everyone in Australia that they were the new exclusive distributors for Australia. Everyone stayed loyal to CAPA, it ended up falling in a heap. It is refreshing to see the same thing happening again with Herrod Motorsport, calling all the dealers to inform them that they were now the exclusive Australian distributors.

You all know that CAPA still has stock of Flash 1 and Flash 2 boxes and we have our own responsibility to liquidate our stock. We see this action by SCT as being a direct action against CAPA. It is unfortunate that they are using yourselves as independent tuners to get at us. As you all know, CAPA has for years, supported SCT and via Scott, we have supported all of the dealers and absorbed the cost of this over time. It seems that SCT does not feel dependent on CAPA anymore, after appointing Herrod Motorsport as a SCT distributor.

As you all know due to our previous price rises, SCT have increased the cost and is now pushing the new X3 Flasher. It seems that the motivation for SCT is to make the current units obsolete and start selling X3s. This assures SCT a new money stream. We received a call this morning from Torque Performance after talking to Charlie at SCT complaining about being shut out, and Charlie told him that they may give him the ability to continue programming flash 1 units for the next 3 to 6 months, but would have to charge him $2,000-$2,500.

Remember, CAPA bought all SCT Flash 1 stock a few years ago, spending over a million dollars Australian with SCT at one time. As you appreciate this put thousands of SCT units in our stock at the time. SCT have had a very small money stream from CAPA for the last few years.

We will continue to support our loyal dealers to the best of it’s ability with the constraints that SCT has and will put upon us.

The best course of action for the tuning community is to put pressure directly on SCT to get support to continue tuning existing Flash 1 and Flash 2 product in the marketplace.

If you have any further questions and wish to speak to Tony direct, please call any time.

I have listed below the details of people who need to be contact at SCT to try and assist you with your software problems.

[Dagabond]

Makes as much sense as this thread continuing....