seduced Need more power. Now taking donations. Member 753 Member For: 15y 8m 30d Gender: Male Posted 15/10/10 05:00 AM Share Posted 15/10/10 05:00 AM Who will the jusge believe? the Driver who is trying to dodge a fine by claiming he was doing "65-70" (which is still speeding) or the cop who used whatever resource to calculate his actual speed.Also, by the time the wagon hit the lights to pull him over, he may have dropped to 65-70km/h before he looked at his speedo, but the cop could have had him at 80km/h 50m back.No evidence from the driver, apparent evidence form the cop.Cop wins. You pay a LOT more for the privlige of appearing in court, and you're still stuck with 3 points. I know what I'd be doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 16y 8m 6d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 15/10/10 05:12 AM Share Posted 15/10/10 05:12 AM Its not what you know, its what you can prove in courtJudge cant just assume your guilty because a copper is apparantly more knowledgable.Its more like person looking at speedo vs person looking at speedo, all basically irelavant.Now if the copper had his recorder on and old mate said yea I was doing 80 bla bla, but has now decided to fight it, he should quit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduced Need more power. Now taking donations. Member 753 Member For: 15y 8m 30d Gender: Male Posted 15/10/10 05:26 AM Share Posted 15/10/10 05:26 AM Here is the variable. The driver has absolutely no idea what evidence the cop has. He never asked for proof. For all he knows, there could be full radar readings, video camera, voice recording admitting he was speeding etc etc. The risk of taking the cop to court and just hoping he has no evidence is waaay too high. And he is still going to receive a fine because he was still over 60. I'd listen to Henz. Quit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keaton185 Member 301 Member For: 15y 9m 29d Gender: Male Location: Straya Posted 15/10/10 08:08 AM Share Posted 15/10/10 08:08 AM They aren't required by law to show you the speedo reading. Unless your mate was legitimately doing less than the quoted speed, I wouldn't bother wasting the time to fight it. As the other guys have said, they have cameras and recordings throughout their car. If he takes it to court, he needs to go in and basically admit that he's an idiot and has since learnt his lesson, and has taken steps to feed his need for speed legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slymeat Team Kickass Donating Members 1,926 Member For: 20y 9m 29d Gender: Male Location: Albion Park, NSW Posted 15/10/10 08:58 AM Share Posted 15/10/10 08:58 AM Just before the hearing your mate will get all the police evidence he is required to receive, that's when the law states he is entitiled to get it. It is not uncommon practice to send a ticket in the mail police have been using this method for many many years. Statute of limitations for simple driving matters is 6 months but if it goes over 1-2 months it is more likely you will receive a summons than a ticket or nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob_xr6turbo Donating Members 433 Member For: 17y 2m 15d Location: Richmond, Melbourne Posted 17/10/10 08:00 AM Author Share Posted 17/10/10 08:00 AM he got the fine in the mail. $239 and 3 demerit points. He remembers the copper putting words into his mouth, cop basically came up and said "you were doing 80km's in a 60km zone, any reason for speeding tonight?" .. "umm oh, im not sure" .. "just don't know the speed limits on that road right?" .. "umm yeh I guess, sorry" - I guess that's considered admission?so I guess I will tell him next time to just plead ignorance and innocence and then contest it. Also, if he did try to contest it, wouldn't every copper in the area be after that particular car with that license plate? I guess they would take it pretty personally that you were trying to make a liar out of them?So much bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo ute79 Member 376 Member For: 16y 2m 30d Gender: Male Location: gladstone qld Posted 17/10/10 08:43 AM Share Posted 17/10/10 08:43 AM Everything your mate said would be recorded, and that's what it would be based on. I have a mate who is a copper, was doing 110 in a 60 in the middle of bumf*ck Idaho, copper cme up behind us with no radar, and knowing what to say saved me a huge fine and long period without a licence, I received a broken collarbone though. Again, it all cmes down to what you say. Ask for proof straight away and deny deny deny. No proof equals no charge. Ps u recommend not speeding at all.Pps hows the ba going? Seems ages since you've been onMy old boy was talking on the phone, copper says you've been honest so I'll think about it. 3 weeks late. Fine arrived in mail. Welcome to Victoria.how did you get the broken collarbone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newl Guests Posted 18/10/10 12:28 AM Share Posted 18/10/10 12:28 AM so I guess I will tell him next time to just plead ignorance and innocence and then contest it.Plead nothing. He just needed to keep his trap shut instead.Most people fail to realize that talking only gets them into more trouble than they may already be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKAJ Member 245 Member For: 16y 9m Posted 18/10/10 09:46 AM Share Posted 18/10/10 09:46 AM he got the fine in the mail. $239 and 3 demerit points. He remembers the copper putting words into his mouth, cop basically came up and said "you were doing 80km's in a 60km zone, any reason for speeding tonight?" .. "umm oh, im not sure" .. "just don't know the speed limits on that road right?" .. "umm yeh I guess, sorry" - I guess that's considered admission?so I guess I will tell him next time to just plead ignorance and innocence and then contest it. Also, if he did try to contest it, wouldn't every copper in the area be after that particular car with that license plate? I guess they would take it pretty personally that you were trying to make a liar out of them?So much bullsh*t.I don't think they will lose sleep over it. Unless he has a history with drugs or similar he wouldn't even be on the radar.As for saying nothing, that can be just as bad and infuriating. People should just man up and take the consequences for their actions. Sooks are the sort of people that do hit runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Donating Members 9,946 Member For: 16y 8m 6d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 18/10/10 10:02 AM Share Posted 18/10/10 10:02 AM Comparing 20kays over to mowing someone down and driving away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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