f-wolf Member 897 Member For: 17y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: ACT Posted 07/10/10 11:30 PM Share Posted 07/10/10 11:30 PM Ford still agonising over Falcon XR8 engineFalcon V8 up to 18 months away as Ford Australia tosses up XR8 alternatives 7 October 2010At : Ford 2011 Falcon XR8 - Ford still agonising over Falcon XR8 engine | GoAuto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHR BOOST Moderating Team 5,698 Member For: 21y 2m 12d Gender: Male Location: Southern Highlands NSW Posted 08/10/10 06:58 AM Share Posted 08/10/10 06:58 AM Surely they cant just drop in the NA version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluprinturbo Donating Members 605 Member For: 16y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 08/10/10 08:41 PM Share Posted 08/10/10 08:41 PM (edited) just checking out the fuel figures. 13.6 to 14.2l/100kms. id say with the odd spirited drive these things will be sitting around the 17-18l/100kms, maybe more. im getting 10.3l/100kms out of my fg right now. would make a huge different to the pocket. probably worth it though. Edited 08/10/10 08:42 PM by bluprinturbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSP Member 89 Member For: 17y 6m 18d Posted 12/10/10 06:23 AM Share Posted 12/10/10 06:23 AM There's no reason what so ever for such a delay if they were going to use FPV's engine!!! So this obviously points to only one other alternative!!!The reason for the delay in implementation, I think, it staring you in the face if you look at the rocker covers on FPV's new S/C 8! That's my hint and I think I might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduced Need more power. Now taking donations. Member 753 Member For: 15y 8m 21d Gender: Male Posted 13/10/10 12:17 AM Share Posted 13/10/10 12:17 AM Theres no way it will be supercharged. If it were, it would be a de-tuned FPV GS motor, which would steal sales from the FPV GS, being that you could drive a new (easily re-tuned) XR8 with GS or GT power for 10 grand cheaper than the entry-level GS. It would make the GS a little pointless in the line-up being it shares the same body kit and everything. Think F6 vs XR6T... if the xr6T shared the same engine as it used to, it would steal sales from the f6. I reckon it will be the NA Coyote, hopefully about 300kw, so there is room for them to pump up the xr6T a little more too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunna Donating Members 813 Member For: 18y 2m 23d Posted 16/10/10 05:11 AM Share Posted 16/10/10 05:11 AM why does there need to be a xr8? In fact, its all academic anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryh Donating Members 166 Member For: 14y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 16/10/10 10:54 PM Share Posted 16/10/10 10:54 PM I think the main problem with dropping in a NA version is that it would probably still be beaten by the turbo XR6/G6E Turbo which was the problem with the last XR8. Then if they go with the detuned Supercharged engine, it is too close to the GS.So, their main problem is that that there is not enough of a gap in their line up between the XR6/G6E Turbo's and the GS for the XR8 to have its own price point and market. Bringing an XR8 in the middle of the turbo's and GS will not increase sales, it will just cannibalise sales from either the turnbos or GS and increase production costs as they will have to run another car line. Every model line increases costs and is only worthwhile if for gains new sales, not takes sales from other lines. Ah well, time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBOO57 Member 538 Member For: 15y 5m 4d Posted 17/10/10 02:44 AM Share Posted 17/10/10 02:44 AM (edited) If no XR8, what will ford have to sell up against SS Commodores?MY10 SS Commodores are available new for around $11000 cheaper than a FPV GS. $44000 V $55000Look on the road how many SS's there are so it seems like a good idea for Ford to have somethingin the market to compete directly with it rather than the Cheapest V8 available from Ford /FPVbeing so much more expensive. Edited 17/10/10 02:45 AM by IBOO57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryh Donating Members 166 Member For: 14y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 17/10/10 03:04 AM Share Posted 17/10/10 03:04 AM Well, the XR6 Turbo is the natural competitor to the SS at this price point and it will smash an SS as far as performance goes... if anything, Expensive Daewoo does not have anything that can match the Ford at the Sub 50k price point. But if its the V8 rumble you are after, then no, there is a hole in the ford range at this price point but then the same issues apply as I noted in my earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 5m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 17/10/10 05:23 AM Share Posted 17/10/10 05:23 AM V8 nuts want V8's, even thought the XRT is better in every way they will still want an XR8. Without it the SS will be even more rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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