marcpec Member 7 Member For: 14y 3m 30d Posted 02/10/10 10:19 AM Share Posted 02/10/10 10:19 AM (edited) Well ive come to terms with having to sell my old evo (what a money pit) due to starting a new landscape gardening business which is currently demanding I get something more practical. But not too practical as im already accustomed to what 400hp feels like.The car is going to stay stock (as long as mentally possible) and has to get me to work on time, everytime. Im not one to even bother doing a burnout, abuse the car in any way as ive driven a 4WD turbo for 6 years. My massive main concern is upon searching for XR6T 'complaints' I found a bunch of people talking about blowing their boxes due to a design fault. Which leads to coolant leaking into the box, is this something that affects all BA's but not BF's? If I was to say replace the stock transmission cooler/lines and treat the car with the respect it deserves will it look after my back pocket as a new small business owner?There is a 03 BA XR6T (4sp) I've been looking at for a couple weeks for really cheap with 77,000 km's on the clock, stock as a rock. But upon reading the complaints on blown boxes left right and centre im seriously concerned, ive tried liking Commo SS's but jesus they're slow and unthrilling stock. Note to all ive rebuilt (personally) my evo gearbox twice (gogo clay selector forks) and never ever want to deal with the damn things ever again.Should I leave the older BA alone and stretch my finances out to get a BF MKII? I've only driven the 4sp auto and was impressed so would be more then happy to own one should I be convinced it wont blow something on me.Please help a noob not buy a commodore. "I just don't want one" Edited 02/10/10 10:20 AM by marcpec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHR BOOST Moderating Team 5,698 Member For: 21y 4m 27d Gender: Male Location: Southern Highlands NSW Posted 02/10/10 10:26 AM Share Posted 02/10/10 10:26 AM If your after and auto try stretch for a BF with the ZF 6 speed auto. Its actually a radiator related fault that occurrs with them. Ive heard of it happening half a dozen times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcpec Member 7 Member For: 14y 3m 30d Posted 02/10/10 10:34 AM Author Share Posted 02/10/10 10:34 AM The difference in price between the two is 8grand so would prefer the BA hip pocket wise, just is it a matter of replacing the trans cooler to rectify any small possibility this can happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDaifu Cruise Whore Moderating Team 5,130 Member For: 19y 5m 27d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 02/10/10 10:45 AM Share Posted 02/10/10 10:45 AM I've owned a BF and 2 BAs (currently on my 2nd BA)- all autos - and not had that issue you described. It's the first I've heard of it actually. Can't really fault the BA for value for money if you want to keep it stock or maybe put in a little custom tune to spice it up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcopbf Banned 118 Member For: 14y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: narre warren Posted 02/10/10 10:33 PM Share Posted 02/10/10 10:33 PM buy the ba and put a aftermarket trans cooler, few hundred installed will fix the proble, happend on my first ba, got it rebuilt then put trans cooler and never happend again. guy that bought it still has no probs and that's after 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Eyes flame magnet Gold Donating Members 5,674 Member For: 16y 8m 16d Gender: Male Location: adelaide hills- 'race air' central Posted 02/10/10 11:00 PM Share Posted 02/10/10 11:00 PM the trans oil lines go to a separate tank incorporated in the radiator. the radiator corodes and creates a hole between the water side and the trans oil side. bang! as above go an aftermarket trans cooler (heat is what kills the ba 4 speed (btr)) and you wont have a prob. pwr ones seem to be best. if you start modifying then anything over 300rwkw will start to test the btr.if you go that way you WILL blow it up sooner or later. a build will cost 3500+ or if you are lucky like I was, a killa second hand built/stalled box can be had for a couple grand.... and welcome to the forum- coming from a worked evo and not gonna modify a t?- good luck with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 8m 6d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 03/10/10 02:14 AM Share Posted 03/10/10 02:14 AM I bought my BA with about 70k on it by the time I sold it with 100k the stock suspension was on the way out as was brakes. Also had brake/front end shudder and failing gearbox (manual). Buy the wrong BA and it will be just as much of a "money pit" as your evo. These are great cars but to me I wouldn't consider them reliable workhorses/dailys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcpec Member 7 Member For: 14y 3m 30d Posted 03/10/10 02:42 AM Author Share Posted 03/10/10 02:42 AM After weighing up everyones posts it seems in the long run (I plan to keep the car more then 4-5years) it would be a better 'business decision' to cough up for a BF MKII.If I did any mods it would have to be sensible, replacing stock intake, ic with the FPV equivalents, then just maintaining it. The reason I had the evo is I dont trust myself in powerful RWD's given how I hit 20psi around corners for sh*ts and giggles - so staying stock till I learn how to deal with a RWD.Is there anything in particular I should be looking out for with the BF MKII (ute has 34,xxx on the odo)? They dont suffer the same radiator problem as the BA's do they?Thanks for the help guys after reading what I read yesterday I think paranoia set in and the thought of not getting an XR6T was devistating, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcopbf Banned 118 Member For: 14y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: narre warren Posted 03/10/10 02:47 AM Share Posted 03/10/10 02:47 AM no you don't have the same probs in the bf mk 2, up side you do get the typhoon motor in the mk 2 if made after the 6/06, which im 99% sure all mk2 are built from 6/06. the motor will handle more power due to better rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned1 Banned Banned 734 Member For: 14y 4m 20d Gender: Male Location: Caloundra Posted 03/10/10 03:21 AM Share Posted 03/10/10 03:21 AM (edited) my evo4 was so easy to hammer round corners ! the anti yaw would occassionally squawk but never any drama ! I wouldnt dream of throwing an xr6t into a bend the way I threw the evo around ! 500kg heavier and 2ft longer ! totally different drive ! the xr6t handles nice but certainly no evo in the handling stakes..we bought this as a daily driver so I don't see the drama there.. got 8.8l on the highway last night over a 150k journey and 12's about town...gratuitous pic ! :D Edited 03/10/10 03:26 AM by rab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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