Rosie Member 361 Member For: 17y 7m 18d Posted 14/09/11 11:25 PM Share Posted 14/09/11 11:25 PM Don't know your Spring rates or Bump and Rebound settings but, I have a BA with 245/35/18 Wheels.- 4 degrees negative front x 6.5 degrees Castor x 0 ToeRear is 2.5 degrees negative x 2mm Toe in- With the bigger Bars front and rear. * No issue whatsoever with the handling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr_velocity Donating Members 290 Member For: 18y 27d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 15/09/11 12:03 AM Author Share Posted 15/09/11 12:03 AM Don't know your Spring rates or Bump and Rebound settings but, I have a BA with 245/35/18 Wheels.- 4 degrees negative front x 6.5 degrees Castor x 0 ToeRear is 2.5 degrees negative x 2mm Toe in- With the bigger Bars front and rear. * No issue whatsoever with the handling!What sway bar sizes are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual harrassment panda I see a red door and I want to paint it black Donating Members 5,919 Member For: 15y 1m Gender: Male Location: Far north queensland Posted 15/09/11 01:27 AM Share Posted 15/09/11 01:27 AM http://stealthtdi.com/SwayBars.htmlThis sums up how to fix your issue of lifting a rear wheel.so basically get the inside front to lift and it will transfer weight to rear.keep my 22mm rear bar and maybe put a 30 on?the more I read, the more I learn, the more confused I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Member 361 Member For: 17y 7m 18d Posted 15/09/11 02:43 AM Share Posted 15/09/11 02:43 AM Whiteline have '2' sizes!- I have the bigger one's.Sorry, but they have been on for quite a few Years now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr_velocity Donating Members 290 Member For: 18y 27d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 15/09/11 02:57 AM Author Share Posted 15/09/11 02:57 AM Here is a pic of my car on a 90 degree turn at EC. See all the weight on the front outer tyre....my understeer problems in a nutshell. That is one corner I just cannot get around without completely backing off.Got to get the weight off the front of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr_velocity Donating Members 290 Member For: 18y 27d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 15/09/11 03:06 AM Author Share Posted 15/09/11 03:06 AM Whiteline have '2' sizes!- I have the bigger one's.Sorry, but they have been on for quite a few Years now!No worries, 30mm and 22mm at a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 16y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 15/09/11 04:13 AM Share Posted 15/09/11 04:13 AM (edited) Hi XR,The vid and the photo are very helpful.Looks like the Z only had the benefit of initial turn in.Looking at them, it confirms to me it needs some more front to rear transfer. The understeer after a few laps is also a good pointer of the front still carrying too much load.......it starts somewhere in the window, and then it gradually goes out of "balance"....ie the grip does not sustain itself equally at both ends of the car. It should maintain balance pretty well over a run if all tyres are seeing similar loads.Through the driver's seat when correctly set up, you should feel it squat somewhat in the rear when cornering load is applied.I say that because rear wheel drive passenger based cars basically corner on the outside rear with the front end left to induce cornering yaw.The rear pad situation....hmmm....not good at all. Those belong in the nearest lake. Edited 15/09/11 04:15 AM by Smoke them tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Member 361 Member For: 17y 7m 18d Posted 15/09/11 06:06 AM Share Posted 15/09/11 06:06 AM No worries, 30mm and 22mm at a guess.No, both are the bigger one's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Member 361 Member For: 17y 7m 18d Posted 15/09/11 06:20 AM Share Posted 15/09/11 06:20 AM Here is a pic of my car on a 90 degree turn at EC. See all the weight on the front outer tyre....my understeer problems in a nutshell. That is one corner I just cannot get around without completely backing off.Got to get the weight off the front of the car.It would 'appear' someone needs to check your Shock Absorber settings and your Spring rates.- I recommend a Phone call/visit to Doug or Peter at 'Heasmans' in Marrickville.Phone: 02.95573739I 'carry' throttle into, thru and out of this Corner!- If you back off, the Car will automatically go into 'weight induced' understeer!- Makes the Understeer worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 15/09/11 06:40 AM Share Posted 15/09/11 06:40 AM The fastest way around a track is not necessarily being the fastest in every corner. Sometimes you have to give a bit in a section to come out on top over the whole lap.And you have to remember these things are bloody taxi's. Quite flexible taxi's. Not sports cars not matter what the stupid badge on the side or boot says.And XR listen to Rosie. A bar is an aid. The springs really do the work. But to get a car up to spring weight for the track will make it an absolute pig on the road. An unbearable pig.Stiffer springs and a whole roll cage to stiffen or keep the chassis together would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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