tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 17d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 07/09/10 08:32 AM Share Posted 07/09/10 08:32 AM Unfortunately all some people saw was a promise of big shiny fibre optic cables coming in to their lounge room and don't give a rat's arse about anything that actually matters.I.e.What will be even funnier is when the NBN sends us broke( r ) or completely fails. Or even if the roll-out does by some major miracle actually succeed then no bastard will be able to afford to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 16y 11m 21d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 07/09/10 09:29 AM Share Posted 07/09/10 09:29 AM These 2 idiots have taken the promises by Dullard as gospel and something that she can deliver. Yeah right! Implementation is something Labor know NOTHING about. Or well thought out policies for that matter.I have been astounded at how these 3 have gone about making their decision. Surely effective and considered decision making should take all valid opinions into account. Valid information should be looked at no matter where it comes from. NO WAY would I just rely on Treasury with their predictive record. But it would appear that in this case it has not. I think that they had no idea of the mental structure or framework to apply to reach an effective decision.These 2 have now tied themselves to such a hopeless incompetent mob. They should be judged exactly the same as them next time around. What person who cares about outcomes can't see the train wreck coming????? And now, Bob Brown is now effectively the deputy PM as she now has to holding weekly meetings with the nu**er.Stable and effective govt will be very non existent with this "parliamentary peoples forum". Let the circular firing squad begin when it all starts to go south. Which won't be long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under-Pants Member 2,103 Member For: 16y 5m 14d Gender: Not Telling Posted 07/09/10 11:45 AM Share Posted 07/09/10 11:45 AM Some people's lack of intelligence never ceases to amaze me.P.S: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjadeb1984 Señor Member Donating Members 391 Member For: 16y 1m 3d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 07/09/10 08:40 PM Share Posted 07/09/10 08:40 PM what a bunch of worryers, the two partys are so similer given 1-2 years with either party we would probably be in the exact same place, that's why it was 50-50 the majority of rubes couldn't decide between one kiss ass and the other, if we got some leaders with a bit of balls and differing opinions it might have been a different story, look at the uk same sh*t happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 9m 28d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 08/09/10 12:54 AM Author Share Posted 08/09/10 12:54 AM Just heard an interview from the ISP's friend (NOT!!) Stephen Conroy that the ALP has to change the NBN rollout plans to give the priority to the bush, so they get the NBN first.I mean FFS there is .0% of stuff all population in rural areas and they do not need the fibre speeds that we need in the city. He also said that if banks can charge the same for ATM's Oz wide, then he does not see a problem charging the same everywhere for NBN....I am sure that if banks put an ATM in your house in the middle of nowhere, they would charge you a sh*teload more to install and maintain it. It just shows you this country is going to be run by MORONS until we get people who have a clue.ALP = NFI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDIE My new toy Lifetime Members 5,344 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: stanthorpe wine capital of qld. Posted 08/09/10 02:11 AM Share Posted 08/09/10 02:11 AM Not that I am against the broadband thing totally but why do we have to waste 40 billion plus dollars on sh*t like that and we have hospitals,roads and other stuff that needs doing.Zap on your comment on the rural areas mate we have the right to same as you people in the cities do.But we already payy more for most things in the country including basic services that you guys in the city take for granted.I live in a town of 15000 people and can only get adsl not adsl2 but we get by.You city people need to pull your heads in and stop thinking that you are the only ones that count.There are more people living here than you think and guess what we supply most of what you guys eat and use in the city so think about that.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6FG Silver Donating Members 497 Member For: 14y 9m 10d Gender: Male Posted 08/09/10 02:27 AM Share Posted 08/09/10 02:27 AM (edited) Agree with Goldie we need the farmers etc they do a fair bit for the economy & have it tough.100mbps broadband speed is over the top though. I have adsl2+ & with distance from the exchange get about 7.6-7.8mbps speed (which is not all that bad for general web browsing & emails). With a cost of approx $1750 per head the NBN is not really value for money although it is actually good technology. Most people in the city don't require 100mbps so I don't know what people in rural areas would use it for. Telstra has got new wireless technology with speeds of 20mbps, which is pretty fast. If this sort of coverage could be increased it would be quite handy.Also bear in mind that a lot of web content we browse is not located in Australia but rather places like America. Having fast broadband is all well & good but if the server can't supply the info quick enough then you are still limited. There are a lot of servers that have trouble keeping up with adsl2+. I don't really see the advantage in spending so much money to have a world leading broadband network when the benifits aren't really justified at the moment. Edited 08/09/10 02:32 AM by Turbo6FG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newl Guests Posted 08/09/10 02:30 AM Share Posted 08/09/10 02:30 AM heh I'm shifting out to the country where my only two connectivity options are 3G (spotty coverage) and 2-way satellite. Both are quite expensive when compared to the offerings available to those in the city. I'll be happy to have something that is not either of the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagnman Member 567 Member For: 15y 5m 21d Posted 08/09/10 02:58 AM Share Posted 08/09/10 02:58 AM I have had plenty of people from the USA saying they cant understand why the OZ govt is wasting so much money and time on a fibre optic network when over there they have wireless internet with massive speeds that is VERY quick t get up and running and can get fast broadband coverage to everyone in Australia for a fraction of the cost of this massive fibre optic network.I'm no expert but it makes sense to me.On the political party side of things I have long been a Liberal supporter but I always look at the pros and cons of the representatives IN MY AREA before I worry too much about who the leader of the party is. I am happy to say the Liberal candidate in my area definitely got my vote as I didn't like any of the other candidates policies. How many of you actually considered what the members of your favoured party were saying they were going to do for YOUR area before you voted?It is a constant disappointment to me how the Australian public is treated like a fricken idiot by the media and the political parties. They dont want you to THINK they just want you to get hooked up and carried along in their popularity contest between the two party leaders! WHAT A BLOODY JOKE!Australian politics has slumped to a new low of mediocrity, stupidity and the public having the wool pulled over their eyes all together. For all the retards that DONKEY vote - you know who you are - BLOODY STOP IT! dont you realise that the system is RIGGED towards all those donkey votes favouring the labour party? Have a bloody look next time, If you dont want to vote properly just put a one next to the liberal party and drop your card in the box or dont fill it in at all!How we can call this a democracy when the party that got most of the votes didn't win the election is BEYOND me! the preferential system si RIGGED to get Labour in as well.Dont be members of unions! your just giving money to the LABOUR PARTY! which they use to BULLsh*t to the dumb ass people in the Australian public and con them into beleiving that the LABOUR PARTY gives a sh*t about the little guys. LOL HEY LABOUR PARTY! HOW ARE THE LITTLE GUYS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS GOING TO COPE WITH HIGHER SUPERANNUATION, HIGHER GST ETC ETC WHEN YOU ARE DOING YOUR BEST TO BUGGER THE AUSTRALIAN ECONOMY? The LAbour parties policies will bring more unemployment, more hardship to the "little guys", harder conditions for business's to operate in making more shut down, waste alot of money, the big business end of town will walk out on Australia, mines wont get started, mineral exploration will be put on hold, etc etc etc .GrrrrrYou know what makes me even more mad? HOW MANY RETARDS IN TEH AUSTRALIAN PUBLIC ARE SO SUCKED IN BY THE LABOUR PARTY'S BUSLLsh*t THAT THEY LINE UP AND VOTE FOR THEM!! STAY AT HOME AND SUCK YOUR BONGS GREENY, DOLE BLUDGING LABOUR VOTERS AND STP STUFFING IT UP FOR THE REST OF US!.Wagnman will now calm down........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDIE My new toy Lifetime Members 5,344 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: stanthorpe wine capital of qld. Posted 08/09/10 03:06 AM Share Posted 08/09/10 03:06 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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