IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 31/08/10 06:48 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 06:48 AM Copied this off tuffcarparts thread on another forum:Bosch EV14 52lb, 60lb, 73lb, 90lb - $77ea – Suitable for FG, LS1-9 and anywhere else EV1 and EV6 injectors will fit (such as BA-BF XR6T) with wiring adapters and spacers which we sell.Other than the wiring adapters (which are supplied) these are a 3/4 length, straight fit injector with no other mods required (other than tune of course!)How are these on the fgs ?[/quoteYep more mystery parts. Would be nice to know the actual bosch part number on the injector so you know what you're paying for The 52lb's would be the unmodified units as on-sold by Ford Performance Racing in the US. The others may be 'milled' or simply another 'part number' from bosch's extensive range of EV-14's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kv! Donating Members 1,132 Member For: 14y 8m 24d Gender: Male Location: Eastern Suburbs, Melbourne Posted 31/08/10 07:29 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 07:29 AM (edited) Yeh I'll try find out mate,Riki, how long is shortly ? Edited 31/08/10 07:31 AM by kvbaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIRO F6 Member 1,817 Member For: 15y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane, QLD Posted 31/08/10 07:33 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 07:33 AM IH8TOADS, all you points are valid and spot on. I wish I had the answer's to those questions for you, but I dont.All I know about the XSPURT range is from experience in using and testing them and what ive been told from the wholesaler. I still believe they are an identical product to the ID range. We even used the information on scaling the XSPURTS from the Injector Dynamics website.Certainly seems to be alot of mystery surrounding them and drilled injectors these days.When the price of an injector is relatively high compared to others and not much substantial information is available on them, I can understand why a consumer wouldnt have confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 31/08/10 08:07 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 08:07 AM IH8TOADS, all you points are valid and spot on. I wish I had the answer's to those questions for you, but I dont.All I know about the XSPURT range is from experience in using and testing them and what ive been told from the wholesaler. I still believe they are an identical product to the ID range. We even used the information on scaling the XSPURTS from the Injector Dynamics website.Certainly seems to be alot of mystery surrounding them and drilled injectors these days.When the price of an injector is relatively high compared to others and not much substantial information is available on them, I can understand why a consumer wouldnt have confidence.Yeah the injector nozzle look identicle to the ID1000's and if the data gives the same result then that pretty much sums it up! Problem about buying ex-USA like I did is the postage time to get here. I'm not patient. Some of the cheaper EV-14's are 'custom milled' and aren't in the same league really. The heads on these seem to have director plates unlike the EV14 model number that is re-branded as ID1000's (bosch part number is unknown mine has the number intentionally removed). If you want the correct ID1000 data (not the stuff from the website) I.e. the calibration summary as well as some SCT value files (they don't work straight of the sheet if loading into an Aussie PCM) then flick me a PM. If you use the quoted deadtimes and convert for 4 bar base pressure then you will find the low slope ends up around 0.025 (depending on fuel pump/s and actual fuel pressure) and much lower than the high slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/08/10 08:30 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 08:30 AM Had a FG in last week, the injectors had been drilled by an unknown source, the customer was not aware he had a modified car, the injectors on our flow bench flowed approx 50 lb but the spray pattern really did not exist, it was a squirt rather than a spray, will be testing some other drilled injectors possibly later in the week to compare the spray pattern against a stocky unit.Found quite a bit of difference in siemens scaling lately, what works on 1 set does not really work on another although the car does appear to run ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 31/08/10 09:07 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 09:07 AM You haven't gone to low with the deatimes have you? What works on some won't work on others so I use my own derived values that are slightly higher than specified by FPR and I get good consistency between aussie models and the idle LTFT is always close to 1.0. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kv! Donating Members 1,132 Member For: 14y 8m 24d Gender: Male Location: Eastern Suburbs, Melbourne Posted 31/08/10 09:25 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 09:25 AM ih8toads, what does 'çustom milled' refer to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 31/08/10 09:29 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 09:29 AM It's a term from five-o-motorsport. I assume it means drilled. Basically make the holes in the director plate larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kv! Donating Members 1,132 Member For: 14y 8m 24d Gender: Male Location: Eastern Suburbs, Melbourne Posted 31/08/10 09:38 AM Share Posted 31/08/10 09:38 AM Whats a high flow set you back? As a comparison.I think its around $695 + installThanks Toad, I thought that's what you meant.So do you know what the correct Bosch 60lb injectors part number is, that fits the fg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 5m 20d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 01/09/10 01:26 AM Share Posted 01/09/10 01:26 AM Bang for buck the good old seimens work fine, I've stuffed around with all sorts of injectors for FG and have decided to just recomend 60lb Seimens with our rail spacers for cars up 400wkws... above that the IDs. As for drilled injectors Ive heard good an bad, as with anything tune related talk to your tuner, obviously Paul/Elite have the drilled ones working well for them, spose it depends on who drills them ect, some good some not.We got 431wkws on 98 from 60lb Seimens BA BF dekas in my G6, on one 044 pump with rail adapters so cant be too bad... Ive now put 80s in and another 044 for saftey sake, and E85 Idle is perefct, set to cruise leanish at low 15s on freeway... like stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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