Xcal 1 Going Offline Discussion

[sexual harrassment panda]

thought you meant loading a tune

flash it back to stock and then tune it

[allmtr]

Can I flash it back to stock with the xcal 3 or do I need the xcal 1?

[Kosij]

There will be no stock tune in the xcal to return it to!

Usually you save the stock tune prior to tunning!

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!

[sexual harrassment panda]

Can I flash it back to stock with the xcal 3 or do I need the xcal 1?

If you have yours tuned with the xcal1 then flash it back to stock with the 1 and then get it tuned with the 3. The xcal1 can still be used if you have tunes your tune on it already, just can't use it for tuning

[GUN-808]

Hope someone can help me here understand this POS concept of having "lives" in an $800 investment(most rediculous idea re programmable ecu's piggybacks etc iv ever heard of)..

SO ? If I buy a new Xcal 3 and have a custom tune installed (actually 3 individual tunes) can I return to stock then retune(overwrite) that "life" and still be on 1 life ?? so contunually modifying that same life ? Or if I have another tune done down the track do I have to use up another "life" again making that 2 strikes ??

Also can I reset/revive the lives by sending it anywhere and paying a fee ??

sorry iv tried to read up but just cant get my head around this rediculous concept.. :/

[dragons90]

Only if you change cars do you lose lives not loading tunes into the same car.

[GUN-808]

Ahh ok thanx a lot Dragons..

that's a little BIT easier to swallow :/

I still dont understand it as the "tuner" needs a dongle to install tunes so really they are just selling units :/

I cant believe they still hold it over our head and essentially "own" the right to say what u do or dont do with your own box..

As the tuners are the only real access owners and they sell units for them I dont see the issue as long as the tuners dont go using 1 box and loading it on heaps of cars, which they would be silly to do anyways as they dont get a sell outta the customer..
MY apologies for my mini rant as iv never come across something like this..

[Rab]

Without the lock any tuner could use a single xcal unit to flash all his customers cars.(you'd be naive to think it wouldn't happen - $800 odd difference in price between a first tune with a legit xcal and a shared one - would be tempting to both owner and tuner)

Would also be a fair bit of "passing around" of tunes between friends too. Followed pretty quick by the backlash when the xcal is blamed for dead engines.

I too was a bit iffy on the lockout, but, thinking about it - the only times I can see where (when being used legitimately) there could be an issue is if for some reason it lost the match to a car it was matched to.