XR6TK1W1 Member 435 Member For: 21y 10m 25d Location: Wellington NZ Posted 21/10/03 08:19 PM Share Posted 21/10/03 08:19 PM Since I do alot of riding ( Horses Ken ) I know full well that you bring your own stick!!!!! Only real problem is were you put that stick on arrival to engauge the manual function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEN 24T Gandalf the Grey, Maiar of Manwë and Varda, Team HgAg/Sneaky Member 7,371 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: The Shire, Middle Earth Posted 22/10/03 05:10 AM Share Posted 22/10/03 05:10 AM Didn't know you could get manual horses ... where's the stick? Ken, Have often had a chuckle at your posts, but that is surely the single most ridiculous, and funny, thing I have ever read.Hat's off to you.BA Turbs Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Walker Guests Posted 23/10/03 04:41 AM Share Posted 23/10/03 04:41 AM Its amazing where a thread on a XR6T auto running against a GT-P auto can lead really, isn't it. Imagine how much you would have beat him by if the T was a manual This just keeps getting better :idea: hahahahaha Correct me if I'm wrong, (which I doubt). But I believe that the 2 quickest XR6Turbo's at the moment are both auto's. They being Dynosteve's and the Nizpro car. Why are the high perfomance tuners going for the auto?????BECAUSE THE AUTO IS THE BETTER BOX !!!!! Yeah, it's better if you want to be in the 11-12 second bracket but not in a standard car...but why am I responding, you obviously already know this and have just tried to change the subject.Is there any other jokers out there that want to tell me that autos must be better 'cos that's what drag racers use'.PLEASEJust 'cos it's got a wanky shifter does it make it any better than the auto in the AU for drag racing? - hardly.Talk to me when they get the six speed auto and I might consider listening if it's got better ratios, until then keep dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 21y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 23/10/03 04:46 AM Share Posted 23/10/03 04:46 AM Its amazing where a thread on a XR6T auto running against a GT-P auto can lead really, isn't it. Imagine how much you would have beat him by if the T was a manual This just keeps getting better :idea: hahahahaha Correct me if I'm wrong, (which I doubt). But I believe that the 2 quickest XR6Turbo's at the moment are both auto's. They being Dynosteve's and the Nizpro car. Why are the high perfomance tuners going for the auto?????BECAUSE THE AUTO IS THE BETTER BOX !!!!! Yeah, it's better if you want to be in the 11-12 second bracket but not in a standard car...but why am I responding, you obviously already know this and have just tried to change the subject.Is there any other jokers out there that want to tell me that autos must be better 'cos that's what drag racers use'.PLEASEJust 'cos it's got a wanky shifter does it make it any better than the auto in the AU for drag racing? - hardly.Talk to me when they get the six speed auto and I might consider listening if it's got better ratios, until then keep dreaming. From the few runs I've had with T manuals I've got the better of them but they probably weren't as good a driver as you Mr wa*ker oops Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 RAPID Formerly Turbo6 Donating Members 2,332 Member For: 22y 1m 11d Location: North Brisbane Posted 23/10/03 06:00 AM Share Posted 23/10/03 06:00 AM My ute is a manual and modified - 350hp ATW. My mate has a standard (apart from the centre muffler removed) auto turbo. Off the start fair dinkum, my ute is a downright bee-atch to launch so guess who has two car lengths head start???? But guess also who gets mowed down by a hissing and popping Citric Acid ute after traction is restored....... :D I am very impressed by the auto and my next turbo (series 2) will nearly be an auto - IF they don't put a stronger trans in the manual. The autos are awesome and don't forget, I own a manual one. And the noises are getting worse.... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 22y 19d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 23/10/03 06:07 AM Share Posted 23/10/03 06:07 AM I am very impressed by the auto and my next turbo (series 2) will nearly be an auto - IF they don't put a stronger trans in the manual. The autos are awesome and don't forget, I own a manual one. And the noises are getting worse.... :( Hmmmm, I asked Dynosteve what he has done to strengthen his auto box the other day, and you know what he said? Nothing! that's right, he has done nothing to his auto! 590hp or whatever he is pushing, and he aint done a thing to his transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 21y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 23/10/03 06:10 AM Share Posted 23/10/03 06:10 AM But guess also who gets mowed down by a hissing and popping Citric Acid ute after traction is restored....... :D Turbo6 Idon't think there are many cars around that your car wouldn't mow down-Legendary stuff mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 9m 7d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 23/10/03 07:31 AM Author Share Posted 23/10/03 07:31 AM Yeah, it's better if you want to be in the 11-12 second bracket but not in a standard car...but why am I responding, you obviously already know this and have just tried to change the subject.Is there any other jokers out there that want to tell me that autos must be better 'cos that's what drag racers use'.PLEASEJust 'cos it's got a wanky shifter does it make it any better than the auto in the AU for drag racing? - hardly.Talk to me when they get the six speed auto and I might consider listening if it's got better ratios, until then keep dreaming. I hope to get my car to the high 12's or very low 13's. I think that with the current choice of boxes in the "T", that the auto is the better option at the moment. Dynosteve's box is proof that it can take the power and Turbo6 is an example of what may happen to the manual. I know that there are lemons and peaches of both boxes but I feel that the average auto box is preferrable to the average manual in the series 1 "T". I also feel that with the "T's" torque coming on so early, that with an increase in power the manual could be hard to launch with no or little wheel spin, which would slow it down. The main reason I bought the auto was because of the way the manual was "bagged" in the press. If I was able to afford a GT I would definately get the manual, though I would probably regret it in Melbournes peak hour (that lasts 3 hours ) traffic. Regarding the wanky shifter. I only use it to hold a gear and usually let the car do the cogs itself. I found at Calder that the auto in performance mode was the best option.regards Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Walker Guests Posted 24/10/03 04:04 AM Share Posted 24/10/03 04:04 AM From the few runs I've had with T manuals I've got the better of them but they probably weren't as good a driver as you Mr wa*ker oops Walker Clearly.Look, the point I'm trying to make is that in the AU for example, no one raved about the auto XR6/XR8 being faster than the manual XR6/XR8 - why? 'Cos they're not! What's the difference now? Yeah, I know were talking about Turbos not N/A cars and that it stays spooled up blah, blah, blah but other than the shifter, how different is the auto and how much better is it in straight line performance than in the AU?All I'm saying (as I have many times) is that the best time by a STANDARD car will be put down by a manual as it has better ratios and less drivetrain power losses. It may lose 9 out of 10 races to the auto as the auto will be way more consistent BUT the manual will post the FASTEST time.Any intelligent person will realise this. Don't post back and take me out of context and don't tell me about 11sec cars/ consistency/ who's a better driver etc.Standard Manual vs Auto - all things being equal: Manual = Fastest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 2m 2d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 24/10/03 04:17 AM Share Posted 24/10/03 04:17 AM It may lose 9 out of 10 races to the auto as the auto will be way more consistent BUT the manual will post the FASTEST time. If the manual loses 9 out of 10 races to the auto how can it post the quickest time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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