harasn Used to work at the Ford Proving Ground! Lifetime Members 306 Member For: 22y 3m 25d Gender: Male Location: Geelong Posted 15/10/03 08:34 PM Share Posted 15/10/03 08:34 PM AUIIIXR6VCT said: Yeh well ford have a low security rating, I think the biggest issue is the fact that you can reprogram the key to work in the ignition by using the demister. So if the guy knows what hes doing then the smart lock crap wont work at all! as far as I know you can't reprogram the car to accept your key with the rear demister button! You can program a remote keypad like we all get when we get a new car but that is it and even that needs to have the correct key in the ignition and stuff! I think on the BA it is harder to do this and you need the Ford WDS machine to program the keypad! Keys are very hard to reprogram.As for a master key I doubt there is a factory master key! ohtherwise all dealers or at least Ford its self would have one and I know they dont!As a fun side gag at the old dealership we used to set all the key pads on the new cars to one keypad and get the 1st year apprentice to go get the next car! Poor boys used to walk out and push the remote button to find all of about 10 to 20 cars unlock at the same time pepending on the range! Very funny! used to always reprogram the remotes after that but! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-57587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloan Member 379 Member For: 21y 11m 13d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne. Posted 15/10/03 08:50 PM Share Posted 15/10/03 08:50 PM harasn said: As a fun side gag at the old dealership we used to set all the key pads on the new cars to one keypad and get the 1st year apprentice to go get the next car! Poor boys used to walk out and push the remote button to find all of about 10 to 20 cars unlock at the same time pepending on the range! Very funny! used to always reprogram the remotes after that but! You guys! Left handed screwdrivers/hammers/shifters etc.? Long weights/waits? I think all 1st year apprentices have been there! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-57588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueXR6Turbo The Best Member Donating Members 1,970 Member For: 22y 5m 11d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 16/10/03 04:29 PM Share Posted 16/10/03 04:29 PM harasn said: AUIIIXR6VCT said: Yeh well ford have a low security rating, I think the biggest issue is the fact that you can reprogram the key to work in the ignition by using the demister. So if the guy knows what hes doing then the smart lock crap wont work at all!as far as I know you can't reprogram the car to accept your key with the rear demister button! You can program a remote keypad like we all get when we get a new car but that is it and even that needs to have the correct key in the ignition and stuff! I think on the BA it is harder to do this and you need the Ford WDS machine to program the keypad! Keys are very hard to reprogram. Anyone can code extra keys for their BA Falcon. It doesn't have to be done by a dealer. It doesn't involve the demister though. The process for coding and decoding keys is on pages 103 and 104 of the manual. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-58008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jjh78 Guests Posted 17/10/03 11:27 AM Share Posted 17/10/03 11:27 AM Thank you for your email to Ford Motor Company of Australia Limited.I emailed Ford Australia with this issue and here is the reply:"This should not occur under normal circumstances. As with any keyed lock, the lock is designed to only open when a key cut to that lock's pattern is used. However, this can be circumvented by tools specifically designed or modified to do so.As it is very difficult to stop unwanted entry, we have fitted our vehicles with "Smartshield", a sophisticated engine immobilisation system. This will prevent your car from being started and driven away in the unfortunate event that it is broken into.We hope this clarifies the situation and we trust that you will enjoy many happy and safe years of Ford motoring."Regards,Damian Wilson Customer Service RepresentativeFord Customer Relationship CentreAddress: Private Mail Bag 5 Campbellfield VIC 3061Phone: 13 36 73 (13 FORD) (Local Call)Email: customers@fordcrc.com.auLooks like the guy was pulling a scam .... "Buyer beware!"Cheers jjh78For the latest updates, visit www.ford.com.au <http://www.ford.com.au/> Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-58232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose 00-XRG / 006-FPV Donating Members 530 Member For: 22y 6m 15d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane, QLD Posted 17/10/03 12:25 PM Share Posted 17/10/03 12:25 PM Just so ya's know our "diamond" shaped keys will lock ALL model falcons from right back as far as EB. Very cool trick. But I've never been able to unlock another car with my keys. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-58250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennAUII Former XT pilot Lifetime Members 4,791 Member For: 21y 10m 28d Gender: Male Location: The Womb Posted 21/10/03 03:12 AM Share Posted 21/10/03 03:12 AM I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!Talk about low security huh? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-59000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRSICKT Member 1,032 Member For: 22y 2m 5d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 21/10/03 07:48 AM Share Posted 21/10/03 07:48 AM Just tried tried my key in a BA Futura and it wouldn't unlock, it would turn all the way to the right but not the left. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-59097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mac_Dude Guests Posted 21/10/03 10:02 AM Share Posted 21/10/03 10:02 AM GlennXR6T said: I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!Talk about low security huh? Sounds dodgy to me - another urbam myth?Have you seen it done? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-59164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueXR6Turbo The Best Member Donating Members 1,970 Member For: 22y 5m 11d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 21/10/03 05:05 PM Share Posted 21/10/03 05:05 PM Mac_Dude said: GlennXR6T said: I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!Talk about low security huh?Sounds dodgy to me - another urbam myth?Have you seen it done? I agree the thing about the lights sounds like a myth.I don't think the retraining of the keypads is low security, as you need to have the key in the ignition (and turned) to do this. So if a thief wanted to do this, they would already need to have a key that they could unlock and start the car with... thus making the keypad pointless. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-59242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Glove Team Blueprint Member 532 Member For: 22y 2m 10d Posted 21/10/03 07:58 PM Share Posted 21/10/03 07:58 PM GlennXR6T said: I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!Talk about low security huh? Sorry my friend but the smashing part is absolute rubbish. I know it has happened in the past, but I cant recall the last time a car with an immobiliser was stolen in the ACT, without the thief having access to the keys. It just doesnt happen, well not enough to rate anyway Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6789-the-guy-unlocked-my-car-with-his-key/page/3/#findComment-59255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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