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  AUIIIXR6VCT said:
Yeh well ford have a low security rating, I think the biggest issue is the fact that you can reprogram the key to work in the ignition by using the demister. So if the guy knows what hes doing then the smart lock crap wont work at all!

as far as I know you can't reprogram the car to accept your key with the rear demister button! You can program a remote keypad like we all get when we get a new car but that is it and even that needs to have the correct key in the ignition and stuff! I think on the BA it is harder to do this and you need the Ford WDS machine to program the keypad! Keys are very hard to reprogram.

As for a master key I doubt there is a factory master key! ohtherwise all dealers or at least Ford its self would have one and I know they dont!

As a fun side gag at the old dealership we used to set all the key pads on the new cars to one keypad and get the 1st year apprentice to go get the next car! Poor boys used to walk out and push the remote button to find all of about 10 to 20 cars unlock at the same time pepending on the range! Very funny! used to always reprogram the remotes after that but!

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  harasn said:
As a fun side gag at the old dealership we used to set all the key pads on the new cars to one keypad and get the 1st year apprentice to go get the next car! Poor boys used to walk out and push the remote button to find all of about 10 to 20 cars unlock at the same time pepending on the range! Very funny! used to always reprogram the remotes after that but!

You guys!

Left handed screwdrivers/hammers/shifters etc.? Long weights/waits?

I think all 1st year apprentices have been there!

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  harasn said:
  AUIIIXR6VCT said:
Yeh well ford have a low security rating, I think the biggest issue is the fact that you can reprogram the key to work in the ignition by using the demister. So if the guy knows what hes doing then the smart lock crap wont work at all!

as far as I know you can't reprogram the car to accept your key with the rear demister button! You can program a remote keypad like we all get when we get a new car but that is it and even that needs to have the correct key in the ignition and stuff! I think on the BA it is harder to do this and you need the Ford WDS machine to program the keypad! Keys are very hard to reprogram.

Anyone can code extra keys for their BA Falcon. It doesn't have to be done by a dealer. It doesn't involve the demister though. The process for coding and decoding keys is on pages 103 and 104 of the manual.

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Thank you for your email to Ford Motor Company of Australia Limited.

I emailed Ford Australia with this issue and here is the reply:

"This should not occur under normal circumstances. As with any keyed lock, the lock is designed to only open when a key cut to that lock's pattern is used. However, this can be circumvented by tools specifically designed or modified to do so.

As it is very difficult to stop unwanted entry, we have fitted our vehicles with "Smartshield", a sophisticated engine immobilisation system. This will prevent your car from being started and driven away in the unfortunate event that it is broken into.

We hope this clarifies the situation and we trust that you will enjoy many happy and safe years of Ford motoring."

Regards,

Damian Wilson

Customer Service Representative

Ford Customer Relationship Centre

Address: Private Mail Bag 5 Campbellfield VIC 3061

Phone: 13 36 73 (13 FORD) (Local Call)

Email: customers@fordcrc.com.au

Looks like the guy was pulling a scam .... "Buyer beware!"

Cheers jjh78

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Just so ya's know our "diamond" shaped keys will lock ALL model falcons from right back as far as EB. Very cool trick. But I've never been able to unlock another car with my keys.

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I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!

Talk about low security huh?

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  GlennXR6T said:
I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!

Talk about low security huh?

Sounds dodgy to me - another urbam myth?

Have you seen it done?

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  GlennXR6T said:
I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!

Talk about low security huh?

Sounds dodgy to me - another urbam myth?

Have you seen it done?

I agree the thing about the lights sounds like a myth.

I don't think the retraining of the keypads is low security, as you need to have the key in the ignition (and turned) to do this. So if a thief wanted to do this, they would already need to have a key that they could unlock and start the car with... thus making the keypad pointless.

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  GlennXR6T said:
I heard that if you smash the 2 rear lights and the interior dome light in an au, it stuffs the imobiliser and you can steal it. And I tried the ltd key on our au2 and it didn't unlock it, BUT... I was able to lock the car using the ltd key. And in the manual, you can train your keypad to any AU2 or 3! how crazy is that? you put the ignition in position I, press the demister 3 times, the car will lock and then unlock, and you then have to press all buttons on the keypad, turn the ignition off and then it'll work!

Talk about low security huh?

Sorry my friend but the smashing part is absolute rubbish. I know it has happened in the past, but I cant recall the last time a car with an immobiliser was stolen in the ACT, without the thief having access to the keys. It just doesnt happen, well not enough to rate anyway

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