mattyb Donating Members 1,097 Member For: 16y 5m Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posted 20/03/10 11:49 AM Share Posted 20/03/10 11:49 AM I'm in the mining industry in Central Queensland... +1 for rudd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubute Member 172 Member For: 19y 1m 17d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 23/03/10 10:12 PM Share Posted 23/03/10 10:12 PM I'm guessing that the quoting for the "Edumacation Revolution" school buildings went something along the lines of this....Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence in Yarralumla. One is from Canberra, another from Melbourne, and the third one is from Sydney. All three go with a government official to examine the fence. The Canberra contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works out some figures with a pencil. “Well”, he says, “I figure the job will run to about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me”. The Melbourne contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says “I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me” The Sydney contractor doesn’t measure or figure, but leans over to the government official and whispers “$2,700”. The government official, incredulous, says “You didn’t even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?’ The Sydney contractor whispers back “$1,000 for me, $1,000 for you, and we hire the bloke from Melbourne to fix the fence”. “Done!” replies the government official. And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 23/03/10 11:23 PM Share Posted 23/03/10 11:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 04/05/10 03:26 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 03:26 AM Something to think about before the next Election!!!!!!!Nothing we don’t already know - but it is interesting to see it all put together.Achievements of the Rudd Government1 Said Sorry several times.2 Ratified Kyoto as it is about to expire without successor.3 Organised "best and brightest summit" - if anything useful came out of that, I missed it.4 Set up "fuel watch", a costly fiasco since abandoned.5 Set up "grocery watch" another costly fiasco since abandoned.6 Established the Australian Social Inclusion Board. This rarely heard of bureaucracy was set up because "Every Australian should have an opportunity to be a full participant in the life of the nation. Unfortunately, too many Australians remain locked out of the benefits of work, education, community engagement and access to basic services. This social exclusion is a significant barrier to sustained prosperity and restricts Australia's future growth". If there is any evidence to support this argument it wasn't included in the announcement. The Board has been described as a "complete wank, .... the biggest waste of tax dollars imaginable, towards some more Rudd-style feel-goodism". That was in May 2008. It probably did seem a big waste of tax dollars then, but it's been turned into a drop in the ocean by what's happened since. 7 Set up the home insulation program - what a disaster! It was a disaster because Rudd so wanted the Feds to be able to claim the credit he gave it to his Dept of Environment. This feel-good department, whose Minister's previous experience was lead singer with a rock band, is full of environmental scientists and climate change disciples with zero experience in dealing with the real world or delivering real programs. Four deaths, a minister demoted, (not sacked or had his salary reduced) and $50 million to former union heavy Greg Combet to fix it, and Combet says that may not be enough. And the claimed environmental benefits were grossly exaggerated. Rudd said he took full responsibility but I don't what that means - he's still PM, he's still drawing his salary and privileged superannuation benefits. 8 Set up SIHIP (Strategic Indigenous Housing and Infrastructure Program). This program was initiated by a Memorandum of Understanding in September 2007. In July 2009 the ABC (hardly a hot-bed of opposition to the ALP) reported on its Lateline program that it was yet to build a single house. That was despite $45.54 million of its $672 million budget having been spent. A government report dated August 2009 said the program was being criticised as: too slow to deliver; its governance was overly bureaucratic; the program is too costly in terms of unit cost of housing and administration. The revised program budget is still $672m with each new house expected to cost $450,000 or $529,000 after factoring in a proportion of administration costs and "contingencies". As at 1st February 2010, 2 of target 750 houses and 70 of 2,500 refurbishments had been completed.9 Sent money direct to taxpayers and non-taxpayers to spend on large screen imported TV's to stimulate the economy and avoid the effects of what Rudd and Swan called the worst depression since the 1930s. In fact unemployment was 11% in 1991 and in 2009 didn't get to 6%, which not too many years ago would have been regarded as virtually full employment. Remember Beattie's target 5%? But if you can't maintain your popularity rating by sending money to voters what can you do?10 Promised that every child in every school in Australia would get a computer. This program is moving so slowly that most of the people who were high school students at the time of the promise will have left school before they see a new computer.11 Set up the $70m green loans mess - people gave up their jobs, paid $3,000 for qualifications and insurance to be trained as assessors, only to find the demand for green loans had been grossly exaggerated, many more assessors were trained than the program envisaged, and there was no work for most of them. The Courier-Mail reported on 2 Feb 2010 that: "The Federal Government predicted up to 200,000 homeowners would take up the loans and only 1,000 have done so ....instead of training 1,500 to 2,000 well-qualified assessors the Government permitted a blow-out and it is now estimated there will be up to 11,500 well-qualified assessors". The program has now been transferred to Penny Wong's department - that should fix it. 12 Turned a good budget surplus into such a huge debt that our grandchildren will have so much trouble servicing it that our population will have to increase rapidly. Blamed the GFS while steadfastly refusing to give any credit to Howard or Costello for leaving them an excellent budget position to work with.13 Didn't include any major infrastructure in the stimulus package because the effects would be felt too slowly (except for duplicating school halls and gyms).14 Set up the home solar hot water initiative which was abruptly ended three weeks early with eight hours notice. This caused chaos in the industry, and many people intending to lodge applications missed out. Peter Garrett blamed a cost blow-out from the original estimate of $150 million to $750 million a year for the cut-back.15 Disbanded "Work Choices". He had to do this because it was the unions' self-funded campaign against it that got him elected. Replaced it by giving back powers to the unions and re-instating the Industrial Relations Club. Set up Fair Work Australia with what seems to many as an over-representation of people with union backgrounds.16 Changed the previous government's immigration laws so successfully that the exponential blow-out in illegal boat arrivals created a need for a lot more accommodation on Christmas Island.17 Said "the science is in on climate change" and claimed the ETS would fix it. Labelled sceptics as deniers.18 Attempted to railroad the ETS through the Senate before Copenhagen for no other reason than it would have allowed Rudd to strut the world stage.19 Went to Copenhagen taking 114 government free-loaders with him (one of the largest of the 190 delegations), at huge cost to the Australian taxpayer and the world's environment. I haven't seen any announcement of the cost of the junket (and I doubt I ever will), but I'm sure that whatever was going to be achieved, at least 100 of the free-loaders were superfluous to requirements. And it was fairly predictable that nothing would be achieved.20 Refuses to debate the use of nuclear power generation to reduce pollution because it's against ALP and union policy.21 Has opened one of 2,650 promised "trades training centres", one of 260 promised child care centres in schools and TAFEs, and 2 of 31 promised GP Super Clinics. 22 Attracted 752 retired nurses back into the profession using a return-to-work bonus. When they announced this scheme Labor hoped 7,750 would take up the offer.23 Removed Labor's original election 2007 promises from the ALP website.24 Promised to take Japan to court on whaling, but now says that will not be until November, probably after the election. As time goes on, I find I'm becoming less convinced about who is really at fault here, Japan for fishing in international waters, or the protestors for disrupting a legitimate commercial operation.25 Has so far kept the Henry tax review secret for political reasons. Last week Rudd was saying it wouldn't be released until after the election. Wiser heads have since made him realise people won't vote for a new tax system when they don't know what's in it. And there must be something nasty in it, either unpalatable to the voters or inconsistent with ALP policy, or it would be heralded as another triumph for the Rudd government.26 Announced he will keep 30% of the state's GST to fund 60% of their hospital costs. The 60% funding will have strings attached. The states have not been given any of the details, just the executive summary, and he expects them to agree to the proposals without knowing what the strings are, or what he might take back with the other hand under the Henry tax review. The announcement doesn't explain how it will improve delivery of hospital services, but it will probably add another layer of bureaucrats to the health system. Australia already has 450,000 bureaucrats looking after 290,000 health professionals. The announcement was hurriedly made in March 2010 after it had been pointed out that he had imposed a June 2009 deadline on himself for reform of the hospitals system. Perhaps this explains the lack of details. Refer back to the criticisms of SIHIP above. I think it'll be deja vue all over again. Rudd said if the states block his plan he will take it to a referendum, which of course is just grandstanding.27. Turned Gillard loose with $16.7 billion to give building contractors, states and bureaucrats a feast in return for COLA.s and unwanted libraries and gyms – the insulation racket all over again in spades.28 Last week he trotted out five senior ministers to criticise the Senate for being "obstructionist". The 5 were Jenny (SIHIP) Macklin, Penny (ETS) Wong, Lindsay (clean nose) Tanner, Nicola (new hospital system) Roxon, and Greg (Mr Fixit) Combet. I think Rudd is lucky the Senate has been obstructionist because if it wasn't he'd have more failures to add to his already impressive list. I noticed Julia was too smart to join the line-up of losers, and has managed not to be associated with too many of the above "achievements" – actually lying low while the schools building fiasco and criminal activities are unfolding. But watch your back, Kevvy.29 If you are a born aussie and in retirement with your partner, your total combined pensions come to $16068.00 pa. Now if you are a couple of illegal immergrants who have just been awarded citizenship your yearly govenment paid for income is $56,680.00 Yes that's right. Those that have built and gone to war for this country get a third of our illegal entry refugee's Beauty Kev.As you might have guessed, I think Rudd's a dud. But everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and if I've missed some real achievements I sincerely apologise, and would like to hear about them....Ps. If you think this is harsh. Read the bolt report on our PM and his achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDIE My new toy Lifetime Members 5,344 Member For: 21y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: stanthorpe wine capital of qld. Posted 04/05/10 03:35 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 03:35 AM He is not only a dud he is a lying f**king bullsh*t artisted who has sent this country broke and now wants to drive the mining sector out of the country.What a drop kick.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d rangd Member 341 Member For: 15y 11m 29d Posted 04/05/10 04:32 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 04:32 AM the problem is people keep putting their faith in the next f*ckwit that puts their hands up for election...the people that run this country and any 'DEMOCRACY' for that matter are faceless. they have no knowledge of what it really takes to run a FREE world, just how to convince you they do. next time theres an election draw a bunch of smily faces over the ballot paper and accept your vote doesnt do sh*t in the big picture but perpetuate ignorance!! lube up shes not getting any better from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepLeft Member 240 Member For: 15y 4m 13d Gender: Male Posted 04/05/10 05:32 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 05:32 AM I've been saying "I told you so" for the last couple of months to all the Labor faithful. Even they're starting to realise that he got voted in on being flashy without any substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smicky Go Pies!!! Donating Members 2,852 Member For: 16y 8m 28d Gender: Male Location: Vic Somewhere - Sometimes NSW Posted 04/05/10 08:43 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 08:43 AM Rudd blows money?Three Words....Blow Arse Rudd!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 16y 10m 23d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 04/05/10 10:55 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 10:55 AM (edited) XR09,Bl**dy great write up. Always good to read straight and frank comment.Another few to the list would be:-internet censorship (Conroy has no idea) -the National Broadband Network where the $41 billion cost and implementation was done without a business plan.....Say what? I read the other day that they have figured out how to send 300Mbps over existing copper lines. The damn thing may be redundant before it is even built. Great.-correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't home insulators being paid before the work was done.....wtf?.....what sort of way is that to do business?-what has happened to the 160 odd reports that have been done at great expense and then left somewhere to gather dust?-he has done nothing to fix the housing issue. He has in fact made it much, much worse. Good one Kev. Not building enough houses, max out immigration and open domestic house purchase up to foreign investors. A policy collision if ever there was one. What other possible outcome could it possibly have than increased interest rates. I really feel for the next generation with the steep mountain to house ownership they will have. I haven't used this word on this forum before, but they have now forced me to use it....farkers.-the promise by Swan to have the budget back in surplus by 2012. I wait with binoculars to see them honestly do that one.I don't see how people that were so damn hopeless in opposition for so many years can suddenly be wise and effective ministers just because they get voted in. Rudderless was so Machiavellian in wanting to make all the decisions and concentrate power around him, but now with a few setbacks, has lost interest. Typical of that type.The Henry Review has not had the wide ranging recommendations implemented because they will use it for ideas during the election.......they are out of fresh ideas on how to do it from expertise within.At each turn, this mob hit the people they purport to represent:-low income taxpayers (cigarettes, alcohol and petrol....their holy trinity of revenue)-public service conditions -low income families trying to buy their own place-and probably a few others that I can't think of at presentfarkers.They couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper bag. Oh god, are they really our leaders???KRudd and Co.....you got:nfi: Edited 04/05/10 11:04 AM by Smoke them tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancidpunx Brisbanes Resident Detailer Donating Members 950 Member For: 15y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: In my Cabin Outside Brisbane. Posted 04/05/10 10:56 AM Share Posted 04/05/10 10:56 AM you forgot the whole binge drinking thing. Now teenage girls get a full strength bottle of Vodka instead of a few harmless sky blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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